Sprint Cup drivers question ruling in Jeremy Mayfield case
By SceneDaily Staff
Thursday, July 02, 2009
Richard Childress Racing's Jeff Burton spoke to the media Thursday at Daytona International Speedway in reference to Wednesday's court ruling concerning Jeremy Mayfield.
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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. – NASCAR drivers wondered aloud how Jeremy Mayfield won an injunction to return to the sport following his positive drug test result, but most stopped short of saying they feared for their safety Thursday during interviews from Daytona International Speedway.
Drivers also revealed that NASCAR has since enhanced its testing procedure since Mayfield’s suspension was announced in early May.
On Wednesday, Mayfield convinced a federal court to give him an injunction that would allow him to drive and own a NASCAR team again, though he was unable to secure a ride for Daytona.
Ryan Newman said it was “not cool” that the judge’s ruling permitted Mayfield to return to the track and suggested that perhaps the judge didn’t understand the gravity of the positive test in relation to racing.
“The situation we have when somebody tests positive is something to be seriously considered,” Newman said. “There’s a lot of responsibility that goes along with that.”
He added: “People make mistakes, I just hope the judge didn’t make one.”
Similarly, Kasey Kahne said he didn’t “have a clue how Jeremy got out of this, but he did.”
“If he’s on the track, I’ve got to race with him,” Kahne said.
Jeff Burton noted that while the judge awarded Mayfield an injunction, that didn’t mean NASCAR had lost its case or was wrong.
“What the judge said was … the result can be questioned, but the judge didn’t say the result is wrong,” Burton said, “and while it’s being questioned, what do we do about it?”
Burton said he would agree with the judge’s ruling if there was an instant test to determine if a driver was clean or not. But given that it takes several days to process test results, Burton said it could be a safety concern.
“I deserve to 100 percent know that he is 100 percent clean,” he said. “He should be tested soon enough, early enough, often enough to where he can never be on the race track while using drugs.”
Burton said he sympathized with the judge for having to make a tough ruling.
“He potentially puts my safety in jeopardy by that decision; the other decision puts Jeremy’s career in jeopardy,” he said. “So what do you do? There’s almost not a right answer.”
Meanwhile, Kahne revealed that when he underwent a routine drug test at Sonoma, the process had grown more intensive. He said earlier in the season, drivers had to provide a sample and sign their name without doing much more.
Now, he said, drivers must initial that they approved many steps in the testing process – along with the person taking the sample – and fill out a form with 20 questions, which has made the test grow from five to 10 minutes to about 40.
“There’s more into the process, so there’s no way around it,” Kahne said.
While NASCAR hasn’t changed the policy, it has made things more consistent over the last month in terms of how many verification forms drivers sign during the testing process, NASCAR spokesman Ramsey Poston said in response to Kahne’s comments.
He said it did not have as much to do with the Mayfield lawsuit as it did for making things consistent from track to track and the person who administers the test. NASCAR uses different people, depending on the location of the race that weekend.
Juan Pablo Montoya confirmed Kahne’s account that the testing has grown more complex since the start of the season.
While Newman said it would be a concern if he started the race next to Mayfield’s car (“I’d wonder about the first lap,” he said), both Kahne and Kyle Busch noted that racing with Mayfield was not an issue to them.
Said Kahne: “I never raced with Jeremy, even at the start of the year. He’s at one end, I’m at the other.”
“Normally we’re ahead of him anyway,” Busch said.
Burton said his research into drug testing shows there are “very few cases where you can go back and say the test was inaccurate.” The problem is, NASCAR’s policy may have had a loophole that needs to be closed.
“The judge didn’t rule the testing was wrong – that’s what’s different about this thing,” Burton said. “We have to look at the policy and figure out how it cannot be questioned again.”
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jupiterthunder said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 3:05 PMKahne is fooling himself thinking he hasn't been racing around Jeremy. And the only reason Kyle hasn't been lately is b/c JM's not been there.
Report as AbuseThe good of this case is that the procedure has improved. Now drivers can be more confident about JM and to an extent, about others.
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Jul 2, 2009 at 3:28 PMif i read it right the judge said JM was losing money and therefore should be allowed to race...???...and he's not at Daytona?...
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» Confirm Abuse Reportamalycke said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 3:33 PMBrilliant #1. I agree. Kasey Kahne is still moonlighting off his gas gamble win at Sonoma. He will be back racing with Mayfield as soon as ChicagoLand picks up and Mayfield goes to the #64.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 3:41 PMWhy has Nascar not revealed exactly what that forbidden drug is?
Report as AbuseWhats the big secret?
KB is more dangerous than Mayfield and he is not on drugs. Innocent until proven guilty?
What happened to that?
I will wait and see.
I am NOT a Mayfield fan either 'but fair is fair.
Go #88. This is your track!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportluckyrock said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 3:49 PMIf the guy is on the track he puts everyone in danger if he is high...sorry KB but that means you too.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportluckyrock said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 3:51 PM#4 They said it was Meth...
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 3:56 PMSo, he's back but he's not back, eh... Well, I wouldn't draft with Mayfield if I were driving @ Daytona this weekend.. I'd stay as far away from him as I could.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:01 PMMaybe some of those talkin need a little enhancing to get going, Those tha said Jeremy went around like a zombee really need to get a garage pass. Mayfield is the most talkative great Fan personally you will meet, I am way against drugs and do think Newman could use something up his a&# to get moving
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Jul 2, 2009 at 4:02 PMMaybe some of those talkin need a little enhancing to get going, Those tha said Jeremy went around like a zombee really need to get a garage pass. Mayfield is the most talkative great Fan personally you will meet, I am way against drugs and do think Newman could use something up his a&# to get moving
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSmokeisaBaby said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:03 PMNONE of these DRIVERS have ANYTHING to do with Jeremy's case. They were NOT there watching Jeremy give his urine sample, they were NOT the URINE (DRUG) TESTER or the LAB TECHNICIAN who ran the urine test or the DOCTOR who certified the results or the NASCAR OFFICIALS who decided to suspend him. It's clear that NO other NASCAR driver's last name is currently MAYFIELD (other than Jeremy)... And if you take the other driver's comments at face value... They do NOT seem to much care about Jeremy as a friend either. This story's description states that EVERY DRIVER "...Stopped short of saying they feared for their safety Thursday during interviews from Daytona International Speedway" which, IRONICALLY is the ONLY THING they could DISCUSS with any sense of KNOWLEDGE or PASSION since NONE of them have been intimately involved in Jeremy's court case or ordeal. What happened to "Innocent until proven guilty" folks? Google "Bubba the Love Sponge Drug Test" and you'll see that the famous radio jock decided to take the same thing Jeremy said he took (Adderal + Claritin-D). After a few days, Bubba had his urine tested and he came back POSITIVE for methamphetamine use too! THERE ARE TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY and these drivers ought to shut up if they're not willing to talk about the one thing they are QUALIFIED to discuss-- whether or not Jeremy's presence on the track (as an accused illegal drug user) puts them at real physical risk. If they are NOT willing to debate that issue HEAD ON, they should ALL just be quiet!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:05 PMDon't worry #7 you could never in your lifetime draft anywhere near Mayfield or any of the other 43. obviously with years of A J Foyt trying to train you, stupid attitude won't RACE!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportrooting4stewart said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:07 PMI failed a drug test 10 years ago while working as a deckhand on the Mississippi River. I could not get the company to give me my job back even though during the cold months, they would call me to work on my days off because someone was sick and I would go catch the boat with the freaking flu. It did not matter to them how I tested positive for weed. I had to go. Mayfield should be at home racing at the local dirt track !!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportphama2 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:15 PMThere is a drug test that can be completed with preliminary results available with in 10 mins. They use it where I am employed. If it triggers a positive result for the usual "recreational" drugs it's followed up with the more thorough lab testing. Now it may not catch all of the drugs on Nascars phantom list, but most of the ones that people would be concerned with. Including "meth". This would probably give any "concerned" drivers a warm fuzzy about racing with Jeremy.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportamalycke said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:19 PMWhy are the Burton's ALWAYS so sad?? Ward was crying profusely when he guest-hosted Phoenix's TrackSide Live in 2005. Aisle never forget that nite.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportrmdunn3 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:35 PMJeremy won't be racing this week end, he was late for registration or something like that.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportrmdunn3 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:36 PMMaybe it was inspection.............
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» Confirm Abuse Reportspegs2 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:42 PMif mayfield was doing drugs he honestly would not look like he does especially if it was meth..what happened to him can happen to any of these drivers.it's a shame that not one of them has the guts to stand up and say they believe mayfield.they say they are worried for their safety at daytona,then get off the track because the big one is waiting right around the corner when you are too impatient or inexperienced,not because jm might be there.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportfast3forme said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:44 PMFalse positives happen. I've worked with multiple brands of clinical analyzers, and errors occure. How do you repair his career, and his character, after you've informed the press, owners, sponsors, and fans, that he tested positive, and you've bungled the chain of evidence, possibly contaminated the sample, and failed to verify the results, with a backup sample, at a independant lab? Tommy Baldwin, Larry Gunsleman will take their chances with lesser drivers, and probably go home, rather than give him the benefit of the doubt. He's a 5 time winner. The punitive damages are going to be huge. IMHO
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» Confirm Abuse Reportdjkracer said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:53 PMA hair follicle test would have proven absolutely positive or negative, If JM was clean he could have taken a hair test and this would have been over by now. HMMMMM......
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» Confirm Abuse Reportlulu said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 4:55 PMand you expected them to say "YEAH, Nascar screwed up" I don't think so. I don't know what the truth is, but in this matter, I don't think they are gonna side against Nascar. Anything you say can be use against you and in a court of law! Do you understand your rights as they have been read to you?
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» Confirm Abuse Reportdale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 5:15 PMlol why does Burton look like he's crying lmao maybe he's just so adamant about this.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportHammer said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 5:16 PMWow! The great Orator Jeff Burton has spoken. He is a want to be spokesman for the drivers; but in reality he is a puppet for NASCAR.
Report as AbuseDrivers like Burton and Kane among others have got to learn to grow a set and speak up against a dictator organization like Nascar.
I'm all for a no drugs policy; but I am for a policy that isn't used as retaliation.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 5:45 PMSeems to me babyKB has put more drivers into the wall than any other driver. Whats he on? Come on people JM is not any more dangerous than any other driver out there. Fair is fair. Leave the man alone.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAndi said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 6:04 PM#10....these drivers were asked their take on the matter, the media asks the question during media sessions that the drivers are involved in/with during the track. They are giving THEIR take, they every right to do so, so settle down. They were asked for their opinion and their take on the matter and they gave it, don't need to get your panties all in a twist about what the others are saying. Heck, I would be worried too if Jeremy is actually on Meth and is driving with them, who wouldn't be. Wish people would stop giving the drivers a hard time when they speak out on certain things....um their asked about it, and they're going to say what's on their mind. Its their right to do so. Now you can attack Kyle Busch all you right, he's an arrogant little punk and says stuff that wants to get fans upset, though the media doesn't ask him questions first, he just speaks. There's a difference.
Report as AbuseAs for Jeremy not looking like a Meth head. Looks can be deceiving, yes I did say he looked like a zombie after another article, well I think he does look like one and said so, doesn't mean I think that makes him guilty, and he does despite the fact he's one of the most fan friendly drivers he still looks like a zombie to me. That's all. My neighbor is a drunk but he doesn't look like anybody who would be a drunk.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAndi said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 6:06 PMI meant he does look like a zombie despite him being on the fan friendly drivers. Not that he looks like a meth head.
Report as AbuseTo add to that: Who really knows what a meth head looks like. There ahve been people who were busted and they look nothing like what you expect a meth head to look like.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportga20fan said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 6:09 PMThe drivers have a right to be concerned but I really doubt they are in any danger because if, in the event Jeremy had taken meth in the past, I bet he hasn't since, since he is trying to get back on track (on the track and with his life) I still want to give Jeremy the benefit of the doubt. Maybe taking Claritin D and Adderal does gives a positive for meth. I just hate to see Jeremy's life go down the sh.. hole if he is innocent.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 6:22 PMGood luck JEREMY
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Jul 2, 2009 at 6:42 PMThe implication of this ruling is, since he's not being allowed to step back into his shoes as they were before NASCAR acted, is that NASCAR
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbuenperico said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 6:48 PMSince he can't step back into the situation he was in prior to NASCAR's sanctions, the implication is that NASCAR has monopolistic power. This ruling raises a horde of questions, not the least of which is its disposition of the "B" sample. Basically, it acted rashly and without adequate legal advice. This matter has grown exponentially in significance because of this ruling and its aftermath. It will continue to do so.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportfrackann1987 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 7:19 PM#3 Kasey won his race not by fuel mileage but true strategy and racing. Just ask Tony, Kasey won that race fair and square. He is also 1 point out of 12th so obviously he's not running in the back of the pack.
Report as AbuseI'm glad they asked the drivers their opinions, its interesting to see.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportipopthekeg said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 7:33 PMJeremy who??? That's what they will be saying in years to come... And people will answer, Oh that drug addict that got thrown out of Racin.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportall-american-clayton said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 7:38 PMNo racing for Jeremy this week. So the debate can continue until next race. I still believe someone needs to take those two substances that Jeremy claims to have used and test them in an independent lab to determine if they produce a positive methamphetamine result.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPhoenix987 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 7:51 PMIs it surprising to hear these things? All NASCAR drivers know that if you say one word that's not 100% praising of NASCAR, you get 'private time' with the officials who 'ask' you to be more positive. Just ask Tony Stewart- he blasted NASCAR for about a month solid, then magically changed after he had to 'discuss things' with the head people. It's not like any of the NASCAR drivers are going to blast NASCAR and praise that the ruling went Jeremy's favor.
Report as AbuseOne thing I find interesting is that NASCAR seems intent on saying it takes 'days' for the test results to be received. I work in a doctor's office, and we deal with lab results with a good amount of our patients. On average, the lab results are under a day old, and the oldest we've had that I can remember were lab results that were 4 days old. Now, how is it we can get lab results that test urine just like a drug test in hours (and sometimes, even minutes- less time than it takes for the patient to get from the lab to our office) yet it would take NASCAR days on end? Come on NASCAR, you can come up with a better argument than that. No one would be surprised to hear that you have professional bs writers for times like this. Just admit you screwed up, you'd maintain more credibility than having to suffer a huge defeat in court. Here you'd at least be able to 'settle out of court' and not have a judge for it.
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Jul 2, 2009 at 8:14 PMNo matter how this turns out,Jeremy will always be a marked man. Alot of people and some drivers will always have there doubts.
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Jul 2, 2009 at 8:36 PM#33....it depends on the lab. I'm sure the doctor's office you work out has its own lab. Nascar does not. Also depends on what they're testing for, I've had had test results from my doctor's office take more then a day and some that I got back right away. IT all just depends on what the test is.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportcaroleberry2 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 8:51 PMThe drivers were asked their opinion - and they gave it, as is their right. Now, whether or Jeremy did or didn't do meth, only he knows for sure. NASCAR should be more open about spelling out things in the rules (not by deciding on a case by case basis, as it appears they do now). If they had a more accurate set of rules (including drug policy), everyone would know what and what they could not take (if in fact jeremy's was a case of claritin + another prescription drug).
Report as AbuseOh, by the way, how would you like to be on the same race track with someone on anything that makes him/her sluggish (putting it mildly) and running up to 200 MPH. I bet you'd think twice about some of the rules, LOL
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbthompson133 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 9:01 PMthank you to all the fools. i contacted an old girlfriend who works for smith cline labs and she said drug tests can be performed in hours, only cultures should take longer. we're seeing each other again(great sex)because of me wanting to make sure of what's going on. again THANKS.something seems fishy about the time frame. if your innocent jm keep fighting. i'm starting to believe you are! btw cultures have to be grown over a period of time.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportipopthekeg said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 9:07 PMMayfield said earier today that he’s had to borrow from relatives, lay off 10 employees and sell personal assets to met his living expenses. I cant even pay my electric bill. I love it, hes broke already!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportkeith308 said:
Jul 2, 2009 at 9:09 PMWho's the most dangerous!
Report as AbuseKyle Busch or Jeremy Mayfield
I would love to see a vote on this one!
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Jul 2, 2009 at 10:26 PM#39 KEITH308; the "most dangerous" are haters such as you, Anonymous, and Andi.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportpws1011 said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 12:20 AM1.Why did JM not submit to nascar prior to what he had taken,This was required.2.(Smokeisababy)you said no one saw JM P in the cup,wrong I saw Krybaby Kyle looking at his unit.3 Nascar will lose in court,lack of list prior to,They will settle soon.4.JM should not be in the sport if he can't afford it.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportpws1011 said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 12:26 AMAnother note:For all the whining drivers,Re:Drug test.It makes absolutely no sense to cry,when a test is given you get to race that day,then find results a wk later,Thats real safe,if in fact he's high on that particular day.Esplain Dat
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjbbigrod said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 2:18 AMI agree with you all the way number 33. - - - WHY would they even interview Kahne on this one??? HE is a mama's boy and supporter of his old boss, Ray, so of course he is going to say negative things about Jeremy. - - - Nothing neutral there at all. - - And of course MOST of the drivers are scared $nitless of NASCAR, so don't expect THEM to say ANY thing against the powers that be. THEY want to keep their jobs. Hey it is all bottom line. IF I were Jeremy I would worry about some of the other drivers out there, IF THEY took any drugs that day, or were hung over from the night before. WHO says Burton is so clean all the time? Or Jr or Kahne aren't hung over? HOW OFTEN are THEY tested? Before every race?
Report as AbuseYeah, right!!! - - - Even DW said today, that he has been around Jeremy for many, many years and has NEVER seen him in a drugged state of mind.
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Jul 3, 2009 at 3:24 AMTo #10 SmokeisaBaby
Report as AbuseThe article did NOT say EVERY DRIVER, it said "MOST DRIVERS". If you are gonna come here spouting off as some type of MAYFIELF LAWYER, at least get your facts straight. If you don't you just look like a real tool.
And to all the "anonymous" posters that come spouting their suposed intellectual goo here, why not use a login name? Scared of something? No creds at all with posts from someone that uses "anony mouse".
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbad_medicine2 said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 3:28 AMJudging just from last weeks race, little bucsh should have been tested right after the race for that bone headed take-everyone-out-on-the-track move... then again, he ususally does something about as stupid every week, so test him often.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportOSUSam said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 10:37 AMAs for all of you with the "Innocent until proven guilty" theory, when it comes to drug testing, almost 100% of the companies in this country who do random drug tests, have the right to suspend employees who test positive, pending further testing. If the further testing proves the original test to be false, the employee is reinstated with back-pay. No harm, no foul (accept for humiliation, apprehension and a stigma that you might still be a user). In Jeremy's situation, there is no back-pay to be had. He's going to lose a lot. Hey, there is no perfect solution to this situation. NASCAR is doing what they feel they need to do. The judge's decision was quite surprising. But, judges ARE lawyers, and lawyers are bottom feeders on the respect scale. So I guess his decision shouldn't surprise me.
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Jul 3, 2009 at 12:55 PMYes, 46, but he is a judge of the other lawyers and their presentations. HE has the job of keeping it within the letter of the law as much as possible, AND to see that one lawyer doesn't run away with the whole shebang, but being a "bigger" crook than the other one, and distorting things too far. We all know it is a game, and THAT is what they are paid to do. It is cat and mouse; WHO will make the right move at the right time and end up to survive another day. Yes, the judges decision was a little surprising, but a pleasant surprise. - - - All we are getting on here is "opinions". I am developing an opinion, that I don't think Jeremy is so stupid to actually take Meth itself. He doesn't need to. I do understand the allergies bit, as I have them. But I personally, after having taken the prescription medicine for my asthma, etc., decided to take it into my own hands and go the more natural, herbal route, and got rid of a lot of side effects. Not everyone choses that option. They believe that only the Western medicine way is the way to go over in this country. We all have a Freedom of Choice here. Well, kinda!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportgwen_susie388 said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 12:59 PMWhere would lawyer's be if and when you might need one?
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjohnlepage said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 1:18 PMWhen you need a 'voice of reason' find Jeff Burton. A rather well spoken interview, thank you.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportpetehulse said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 2:21 PMNASCAR failed to properly handle the "B" sample. A single urine sample is taken and split into "A" and "B" samples. Test the "A", hold the "B". When the "A" sample indicated a problem, the "B" sample should have been sent to an independent lab with proper chain of posession protocols and tested. Failing to do that leaves open the possibility that there was lab error or contamination or even that deliberate tampering occured. A well planned, properly executed testing program could have saved a lot of trouble.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportmodel67a said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 2:56 PMWhy doesn't Nascar have a reputable drug testing agency combine the two drugs and test them to find out what is produced. The test for meth might come up positive on what the result is. There was one post where a radio announcer did this and the result was positive. If this is true it would seem that Nascar is avoiding being proven wrong!!!
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Jul 3, 2009 at 3:00 PMWhy doesn't Nascar have a reputable drug testing agency combine the two drugs and test them to find out what is produced. The test for meth might come up positive on what the result is. There was one post where a radio announcer did this and the result was positive. If this is true it would seem that Nascar is avoiding being proven wrong!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportga20fan said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 3:03 PM#46 - Yes, when the driver test is positive, you take immediate action and suspend the driver, but the driver has the right to appeal the decision especially if there extraordinary circumstances like in the case of Jeremy Mayfield. I am saying there are a lot of people making comments have already considered him taking meth without giving him a chance to prove he didn't, therefore, he should be treated innocent until proven guilty.
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Jul 3, 2009 at 3:09 PMnascar got caught. when i worked ir the doctors would call and ask us what we wanted before classifying thier results. haven't trusted drug testing since. hope jm can afford to fight all the way.this could be a win for all HONEST people who get screwed for speaking the truth even though it's not popular
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» Confirm Abuse Reportpetehulse said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 4:11 PMModel67A asked, "Why doesn't Nascar have a reputable drug testing agency combine the two drugs and test them to find out what is produced." - - - To produce an accurate result, you'd have to combine them in a human being. Still, false positives are not just possible, but documented. Judge says Mayfield can race. NASCAR should test him frequently and, if he tests clean, they should let him practice, qualify and race.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSinn said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 10:19 PMI've been driving under the influence of drugs since I was 12.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportmrtd said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 10:24 PMI was a drug/alcohol NCO for several years in uniform. Give what I've read about how the samples were collected, the chain of custody from that point forward, and the overall program itself, I can say with confidence that nothing produced by such a test system would have stood up in any military court. It wouldn't matter how hot any sample or part thereof tested: the overall program itself would have been thrown out. If NASCAR's program is as stated, and JM is telling the truth, then it's just a matter of who has the deeper pockets. Justice seems to have very little to do with it.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportOSUSam said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 PM#58, I agree. Justice doesn't have much to do with anything anymore. It's who's lawyers can out conive the other's. Do you get the idea I hate lawyers? I too am a bit surprised about NASCAR's drug program. I was surprised to read that they have different people from different labs administer the tests depending on the track. You would think as much money as NASCAR makes, that they could afford to have one or two people travel with them to do the tests to keep consistency, and add credibility to the testing. There is too much at stake to do it the way they are doing it. I too have administered random drug tests for an employer of 500. I did 5 random tests a day. You have to dot you I's and cross your T's to protect both parties. Hopefully, they will get it right.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportstilla4cardflush said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 11:07 PMHey, Jeff Burton and Dale Jr. didn't you conceal the fact that you had a concussions so that you could continue too race. And what was the reason that you thought it was OK to jeopardize everyone else?(put other drivers at risk of injury or death) Was it money? Was Nascar pushing you too get back in the car so you could help fill the stands? Now be honest were you a 100 percent? I think Nascar should back off on Mayfield. The testing of the samples is flawed. Look up the people that have taken the same thing and had a test come up positive, without being meth users. Nascar (Well someone other than Nascar) should take a look at Jeff Burtons, Dale Jarretts and Dale Jr. concussions, and then look at the tape of Dale Sr. Mountain Dew Southern 500 where he didn't finish a single lap, was that a concussion too? Was he drunk, stoned or what? Really Nascar how much danger did they put the other drivers in? Do we need affidavits from drivers Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Robby Gordon, Kasey Kahne, and Ryan Newman stating they are not willing to put there life at risk driving a race car on a NASCAR track with drivers testing positive for CONCUSSIONS!!! What are the symptoms of a concussion Dale Jr.? Are you still having the symptoms Dale Jr.? Well how dare I ask a Big Time driver this question!!! He puts people in the stands, and money in Nascar's pocket, While Jeremy doesn't. And Nascar let them race, and them drivers put the others at risk, for selfish reasons. Now does every driver look in the mirror and say that wreck hurt my head but "I'm no Drug User, they could hurt someone!!!" Come on Jeff, Jimmie and Robby make a stand, protect yourself from drivers who have had concussions!!! Now Test these drivers who do wreck and possibly have concussions every 24 hrs and I don't think that is harassment!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportrwilliamhayes said:
Jul 3, 2009 at 11:54 PMAnd what are all you politically correct people going to say if NASCAR ultimately wins?
Report as AbuseThe way i see it Methfield was caught with meth in his system and therefore was suspended.RIGHTFULLY SO!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjbbigrod said:
Jul 4, 2009 at 12:34 AMYes, 61, but it is obvious you are one of the head honchos of the vigilante committee. Sure he was rightfully suspended, but he was RIGHTFULLY allowed to race again also. AND when it is all said and done, he just MIGHT be reinstated and exhonerated; and THEN where are YOU and others like you going to hide? Many already hide under a non y mouse. At least you have a name. But still no excuse for your hanging techniques. Give it time, it will be taken care of, eventually.
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Jul 4, 2009 at 11:48 PMga20fan, under NASCAR's drug policy, there is no right of appeal. Your only option is to do what NASCAR says you need to do in order to be re-instated. Basically you in effect have to admit to being a user and go through rehab.
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