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Ryan Newman uninjured after flipping, landing on roof in horrifying Talladega crash
By Bob Pockrass - Associate Editor
Sunday, November 01, 2009
Ryan Newman's Stewart-Haas Racing Chevrolet flips during a crash in Sunday's NASCAR Sprint Cup Amp Energy 500 at Talladega Superspeedway.
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TALLADEGA, Ala. - Stewart-Haas Racing's Ryan Newman was sore after a frightening, end-over-end crash that sent his car flipping, rolling and skidding down the track at Talladega Superspeedway in Sunday's NASCAR Sprint Cup Amp Energy 500.
He was just as sore at NASCAR officials.
It was just six months ago when Newman tapped Carl Edwards’ spinning car, launching it into the air and into the catch fence at Talladega.
“I’m just really disappointed,” Newman said. “We had this race back here in the spring and complained about cars getting airborne and now ironically I’m the guy that gets upside down. … I wish NASCAR would do something.”
NASCAR did do something to try to keep cars on the ground. It decreased the size of the holes in the restrictor plates from 60/64ths of an inch to 59/64ths of an inch. It also prohibited bump-drafting in the turns.
But two cars – Newman’s and Mark Martin’s – ended up getting airborne in a race that was fairly tame for the first 100 laps before drivers began racing two and three wide. Newman’s accident occurred when he got tapped by Marcos Ambrose as cars slowed in the draft.
“It was a boring race for the fans,” Newman said. “That [wreck] is not something anybody wants to see, at least I hope not. If they do, go home because you don’t belong here.
“It’s just a product of this racing and what NASCAR has put us into with this box and these restrictor plates with these types of cars – with the [no passing below the] yellow line, no bump-drafting, no passing. Drivers used to be able to respect each other and race around each other. Richard Petty, David Pearson and Bobby Allison and all those guys have always done that. I guess they don’t think much of us any more.”
That’s not true, NASCAR Vice President of Competition Robin Pemberton said.
“Drivers are fortunate that they can take the spills that they do and you can talk to them 15-20 minutes after they climb out of the car,” Pemberton said. “And like anything, we’ll get together and we’ll talk about it.
“It’s racing, and a lot of times you can’t prepare for every situation like that. … We try to work with the teams and the drivers in here. We respect what they say and what they have to offer, and if it’s something we feel we have to work on, we work on it.”
Although Newman was uninjured, it took workers more than five minutes to flip the car back over and cut off the roof so he could climb out.
“We don’t need the cars getting upside down like this,” Newman said. “This is ridiculous. There is way more technology than that to help us out. Whether it is a speed issue, a roof-flap issue, whatever. I said it myself in the media center after the spring race here, and now to be the guy standing here trying to live it all out again, I’m just happy I am living it out.
“It is a shame that not more is getting done. I don’t know. I guess maybe I expect NASCAR to call me. I am the only guy out there with an engineering degree. I would like to have a little respect on my end.”
Pemberton said the race was typical of Talladega – periods of single-file racing following by a spectacular crash in which cars occasionally get airborne. He said Newman’s accident would be analyzed.
“We’ll go back and look at the numbers and see if there is anything that needs to be done,” Pemberton said. “We’ll go back and we’ll evaluate what happened today.”
Not everyone involved in the Newman wreck thought the racing was ridiculous.
“Everybody was pretty calm up until that point,” Harvick said. “It looked like somebody just hooked the 39 [of Newman], but other than that I thought it was a pretty calm Talladega. Obviously we had some crashes there at the very end. … I don’t think the restrictor plate had anything to do with it.”
The hood of Harvick’s car was damaged, but he was able to finish the race despite getting an up-close look at the inside of Newman’s car when it landed upside down on his hood.
“It’s kind of how our year has gone,” Harvick said. “If there was one car he was going to land on top of, it was probably going to be us.”
Martin, a longtime critic of restrictor-plate racing, agreed that the crashes were typical of Talladega and not the product of the rules.
“They didn’t create that [Newman] wreck that brought the caution out that made a green-white-checkered [finish]; that was just a sense of urgency time,” Martin said. “That’s what we had here. They haven’t created that, that’s what it is.
“People were trying to make it to the end. They got pretty close.”
And some got upside down. Newman left frustrated, Martin maybe not so much.
“It’s a success if I walk out of here,” Martin said. “I’ve had a successful day. I climb on that plane, I go home, I see my family, it’s all good.”
2009 Sprint Cup Race for the Chase Standings
Driver Standings after the Checker O'Reilly Auto Parts 500
| 1 | Jimmie Johnson | 6492 |
| 2 | Mark Martin | -108 |
| 3 | Jeff Gordon | -169 |
| 4 | Kurt Busch | -211 |
| 5 | Tony Stewart | -285 |
| 6 | Juan Pablo Montoya | -289 |
| 7 | Greg Biffle | -321 |
| 8 | Denny Hamlin | -352 |
| 9 | Ryan Newman | -411 |
| 10 | Kasey Kahne | -476 |
| 11 | Carl Edwards | -520 |
| 12 | Brian Vickers | -666 |
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sweetthings88 said:
Nov 1, 2009 at 5:01 PMTHANK GOD RYAN YOUR ALRIGHT.WHAT A TUMBLE. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING YOUR PEACE. NOW I HOPE NASCAR WILL LISTEN.
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Nov 1, 2009 at 5:09 PMCoulda been worse.
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Nov 1, 2009 at 5:13 PMI was glad to see that Ryan Newman was okay. His comments were right on the money. I hope Nascar listens.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportkdbc said:
Nov 1, 2009 at 5:24 PMEnd of that race was totally ridiculous. Change rules and let them race or just make it a 10 lap race because no one is racing until then the way it is now. NASCAR reacted to the spring wreck by putting the hammer down on bump drafting in the corners. That's not even what caused that wreck. That was the yellow line and blocking. Come on NASCAR! Todays event was NOT racing.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportkahnefan said:
Nov 1, 2009 at 5:26 PMIf these driver's feel like heir lives are in severe danger, than they don't have to race that race, simple as that. But I am glad everyone is that ok.
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Nov 1, 2009 at 5:56 PM*their*
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Nov 1, 2009 at 5:59 PMLet's all take a vote to see how much Newman gets fined for speaking his mind and bashing the sport where all is good as Francy says?
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPhere said:
Nov 1, 2009 at 6:00 PMThat race wasn't a race at all. It was a crap shoot! Single file until the dice came out. Then whoever landed on his feet, won. Bad, bad, bad NASCAR. You lose, lose, loser!!! Bad for racers, teams, and especially fans. Everybody should DEMAND their money back! Sorry I even watched it! Total waste of my day! And the chasers, I feel for them, for some, that's the whole year,-----GONE!!! Who in tarnation, takes the speed out of racing to make a better race? S-T-U-P-I-D. Listen to Ryan, He's more than just another pretty face. That was totally, absolutely, disgusting!
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Nov 1, 2009 at 6:05 PMSo glad Ryan was OK! That was a blessing!
Report as AbuseLooked like most of the time the drivers were just out for a Sunday drive. BORING!
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Nov 1, 2009 at 6:10 PMGlad Ryan is OK. Seems to be a stand-up kind of guy.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Nov 1, 2009 at 6:35 PMI'm also glad Ryan is safe.. Just listen to his and Mark Martin's interview and you can tell how the drivers felt about that race today..
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Nov 1, 2009 at 7:46 PMI bet not one driver liked that race today. The drivers don't want to race like that either. ITS NASCAR.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportCarol-88-fan said:
Nov 1, 2009 at 8:45 PMWhen I saw that car the first thing I thought of was Dale Sr. Thank God, Ryan was alright. According to Bob Dillner, none of the drivers he talked to likes this kind of racing. The ones I heard all blame the box Nascar has put them in, with the Cot and the rules. Of course we all know the racing is great and Nascars right, just ask them.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSS396Chevelle said:
Nov 1, 2009 at 8:52 PMToday had to be one of the most boring races ever at Dega. Basically 450 miles of single file racing. If nascar wants to take side by side racing away like they did today, then take Dega out of the chase then put in a track like Darlington.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRowdy4life said:
Nov 1, 2009 at 9:22 PMRESTRICTOR PLATE RACES AT TALLADEGA HAVE ALWAYS BEEN 178 LAPS OF WORTHLESS RACING AND THEN 10 LAPS OF REAL RACING. NOTHIN HAS CHANGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportsarsie1 said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 2:39 AMAll I could think was Thank GOD that car did not catch on fire. It would have been fatal. Ryan said in his interview he was trapped, the roll cage was around his helmet. I do not understand why those roll cages are not stronger if they can literally trap a driver in there like that. Other than that, the race essentially sucked-follow the leader for most of the race.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAndi said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 3:20 AMThank God that Newman was alright. Until ABC actually played the audio of him saying he was alright, I kept hoping and praying he was okay, and he was. Was even more relieved when they showed him coming out of the car, after a lengthy time of getting him out. I felt really bad for Krissie, that had to be really agonizing and painful for her. As for the single file racing....I think that was the driver's way of boycotting this new rule that nascar put in place an hour before the race. And I still saw them bump drafting in the turns. I remember when they first brought the cot to Daytona and Talladega, was lots of single file racing, or a parade of race cars.
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Nov 2, 2009 at 10:06 AMYes, thank God that Newman is ok. Nascar, listen to what the drivers are saying! And I like #14's idea...bring back Darlington for real racing!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBILLFAN50 said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 1:29 PMWhat a fiasco!! 40 years ago I was at Dega for the first race and the drivers boycotted the race...ANDI,I think your right about the boycott theory... They did give us tickets for the next race.. The article in Scene the other day said the problem was with the tire for the first race,I thought there was also problems with rocks coming up from the new asphalt and cutting the tires... Maybe I'm having a senior moment..
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBILLFAN50 said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 2:11 PMCongrats to SARSIE for the new addition...
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Nov 2, 2009 at 3:05 PMWas glad to see Newman get out of the car. And NASCAR, what exactly did you think you fixed with your new rules? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. A car still flew through the air.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportminkee2 said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 3:45 PMI agree with #14 and #18!! Let's just do away with 'Dega all together and do Darlington instead. Both the Spring and Chase races were boring until the end when it became too dangerous for the drivers--and at least one fan! Single file racing doesn't work for anyone--fans or drivers--so just forget the whole track!!
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Nov 2, 2009 at 3:49 PMAw, thanks BILLFAN!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportdavekooz said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 3:58 PMGlad all the drivers walked away,but very boring race,and changes to the cup car cant come soon enough.The wing is just that,a wing.When the cars get backwards at that speed the roof flaps cant hold the car down and the angle of the wing pulls it up
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPhoenix987 said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 4:22 PMJust an amazing race NASCAR. You feared a car getting airborne and hurting fans, so you raised the fence, told the drivers not to bump-draft in the corners, and instead you had 2 (not 1, but 2!) cars get airborne and flip.
Report as AbuseIt's funny too, that both of the cars that flipped today were Hendrick cars (whether in the HMS shop or a satellite). If NASCAR was trying to help Jimmie Johnson with the new rules, all they did was cause two of his teammates to flip.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportZiggy said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 4:34 PMSarsie1, I was sitting on the sofa holding my breath,saying "Dear God"" get him out fast, in case the car catches on fire. I thought the rescue people were incredibly inept. Just my opinion.Ryan is one of the good guys!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjim294 said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 4:34 PMDear track president Mr. Humphrey - Mark Martin says - "It’s a success if I walk out of here". According to your quotes you have a much different view of success. Perhaps you should listen to that and the pretty obvious feedback from the racing fans. This has to stop. Terrible and unsafe racing.
Report as AbuseThe drivers need to boycott this track again and so do the fans.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSheilaLovesNASCAR said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 4:43 PMThe car may...may be safer, but with all the restrictions and rules, the racing isn't even racing any more. 36 cars lined up one after the other isn't racing. It's a parade. No matter how fast they may be going. It's SUPPOSED to be the car behind pushing the car ahead. Bump drafting doesn't cause nearly as many accidents as the blocking does. Just leave them alone and let them race. Ryan had that right. They should listen to what he has to say. The car itself is not right for racing. Just for crashing. Is that what it's come to? Crashing is not and never was racing. I used to look forward to the dega races so I could see three wide racing. Yesterday certainly wasn't that. Was 1/64ths really supposed to make any difference? And was that the problem to begin with?
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Nov 2, 2009 at 4:57 PMRyan I am glad you are OK, Daffy Dega sure isn't nice to you. Your statement in your post race interview was right on the money.No truer words were ever spoken.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportWerner said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 5:50 PMi think Ryan was more upset form hanging upside down so long...perhaps some of you caught the statement by one of the elder statesmen of NASCAR...Jeff Gordon..."i don't know what the solution is"...sure glad we can figure it out in here...lol
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Nov 2, 2009 at 6:33 PMGlad to see ALL of the drivers involved in yesterdays debacle came away from Talladega in one piece!! Think Ryan still had a little adrenalin rush going in that post-crash interview? Maybe NASCAR should install some of those tracks like at a car wash that just guide your car along after you get lined up and put your car in neutral. Yesterday was 150 laps of boredom followed by 38 laps of mayhem. Take a poll from all the drivers and get their opinion on what to do, not just take a stab in the dark like NASCAR is doing now...
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» Confirm Abuse Reporteurodon said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 6:37 PM....and Jimmy Johnson comes from 31st place to a sixth place finish after all the carnage is cleaned up!!! How does he do it week after week?? I know he has some of the best equipment and is a very talented driver, but he comes out of the caca river selling roses on the other side every week.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportWerner said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 7:53 PMafter kistening to Jeff Burton we might have to fault the drivers...no one wanted to step out and start another line...so why did they do it later on?...what was the point?...first they can't then they can...they didn't prove their point...made themselves look stupid...
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Nov 2, 2009 at 8:59 PMThe wing needs to be looked at closely. What keeps the rear end down while going forward, lifts the car and makes it airborne when going backwards. The roof flaps are useless at those speeds.
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Nov 2, 2009 at 10:00 PMChevelle, Thats exactly what Newman said.Werner, I do not agree about Newman saying what he said because he was hanging upside down. The man is a certified mechanical engineer and I think there was a lot of logic there. I respect both of your opinions though.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjhargarage said:
Nov 2, 2009 at 10:07 PMMr "I will wreck you" Kaz-lous-ky was the one who got into Carl in the spring. He (crash-lousy) has wrecked 6 drivers this year.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportxbrownsx said:
Nov 3, 2009 at 1:23 AM#4 (KDBC) I agree with you - right on the money. Glad Ryan and Mark were okay, first and foremost. NASCAR listen to the drivers? Ha Ha Ha. Unless a driver is seriously hurt in one of these Talladega pack wrecks, IE severe injury, career over, never to drive again, or worse (terminal consequences, like Dale Sr, At Daytona in 2001) NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Report as AbuseHowever, I have an idea I think that will get Mike Helton, Brian France, John Darby's attention very quickly, and the drivers have the power here. Of course, the drivers would need to have their own meeting, and iron out the game plan here... The next Talladega race, with 10 laps left, have all the drivers go to a straight line, bumper-to-bumper. Slow down to 60 MPH. Run the remaining 10 laps at those speeds, then have all 43 cars (or cars still in the race) take the waving checkered flag at 60 MPH. NO BIG CRASH. The drivers still get their points and prize $$.
This sends a BIG MESSAGE to NASCAR the drivers want change. 60 MPH means no torn up and wrecked cars on the last few laps.
Then the loud "BOOOOOOOO" 'ing from the race fans would also get the attention and embarass NASCAR's brass.
Imagine the wordwide publicity this would generate?
What do you all think of my idea? Think about it - I feel this way truly makes a point and how we're all sick of restrictor plates ect. NASCAR wants the cars slowed down - 60 MPH on the waning laps accomplishes this and drivers, teams, don't lose their points or $$.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjbbigrod said:
Nov 3, 2009 at 1:28 AMAs I see it, we have THREE problems here: Crash-Louse-Ski, NA$CAR, and THE TRACK. They ALL need fixin'. - - - But WHO is going to fix them? Certainly not NA$CAR. They are happy taking in their big bucks, even IF they are off a little. - - - IF the FANS went on strike, and didn't go to the track, THEN something MIGHT be done. A drivers strike wouldn't help; NA$CAR proved that at the very first Talladega race. So the fans NEED to stay away, UNTIL they either/or shorten the track, cut down on the banking, OR bring back the old slower cars the track was designed for. HURT the track owners, THEN something MIGHT be done. - - - Another thing that could be done is fine the drivers IF they go over 185 mph. Don't you think that would help? LOL. - - - BUT NA$CAR won't listen, you can be sure of that. This goes on after EVERY race, and has for many years. I have always hated Talladega races, and always will UNTIL they change the track. , , , Eliminate it from the chase for sure.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportazfreebird said:
Nov 3, 2009 at 6:23 AMHarvick said at one point at one point in the race when he was in the lead and they were single file 'racing' "I wish I had cruise contro" Stewart said "Get me an energy drink so I can stay awake". Do the fans really enjoy this? Obviously not from these posts!
Report as AbuseI didn't! I was glad I taped the race... fast forward through all this downtime. Commercials... fast forward. Sorry sponsors!
I was horrified to see Newman flying through the air, landing first on Harvick and then going airborne again. I too was terrified that he would catch fire, be seriously injured or worse.
Then comes Mark doing a flip.
So much for an exciting cup finish!
Thanks NASCAR... I can skip the rest of the season now... not much of a chance of anyone catching Jimmie now!
I DO wish someone in the NASCAR monopoly would at least consider Ryan's offer and LISTEN to his suggestions! He is qualified to make them!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportazfreebird said:
Nov 3, 2009 at 6:23 AMcontro=control
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTHEBIGKESELOWSKI said:
Nov 3, 2009 at 3:02 PMThe way Ray Evernham described it, the new "safer" CoT wing turns the car into an airplane at 190 MPH in reverse. Roof flaps aren't going to do anything in that scenario. Couldn't they incorporate a flap into the wing or make it a breakaway wing? Another thought... forget plates, swap out the wing for a spoiler at Dega!
Report as AbuseEasiest solution is still to just let them race minus the plates.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTHEBIGKESELOWSKI said:
Nov 3, 2009 at 3:04 PMI know, double post... but where the heck was the dash-cam shot from the 29?
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» Confirm Abuse ReportWerner said:
Nov 3, 2009 at 10:08 PMspoiler also creates lift...have to prevent that air form getting under the car...
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» Confirm Abuse Reportsocalracefan said:
Nov 4, 2009 at 12:44 AMRyan ws lucky he landed on the 29, I can only imagine how this would have turned out it he hit the pavement. NASCAR needs to wake up. I have noticed more and more drivers are not thrilled to race at Talladega. I know that the fans love this track and "The Big One", but having had the oppurtunity on several ocassions to be in the garage and actualy talk to these guys I would not want to loose any one of them. All theses drivers put their lives on the line to put on a show for the fans and as a fan of this sport I would not ask that of them. I want to see a race, and if that means single file to log laps so be it. I am a long time fan of this sport and have seen many changes, I hope that the changes still to come will make the racing more exciting for everyone.
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» Confirm Abuse Report7cgoi1c0 said:
Nov 4, 2009 at 1:19 PMI thought I had tuned in a F1 race using shoe boxes going in a circle.
Report as AbuseI guess it really was a F1 race FRANCECAR 1 at its finest. This family has made about as much money off racing fans and team owners as the Walton family. NASCAR is about control FRANCECAR control, they are going to do what's best for them, not drivers, team owners, fans, nobody except FRANCECAR. And if you don't like it go somewhere else.... wait there is nowhere else. FRANCECAR companies own or control most of the tracks. Sounds alot like a monopoly to me. Team owners can't get enough sponsers to field the cars they have now. So I guess starting another racing series using "stock cars" would be hopeless.
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