Red Bull plans to have Brian Vickers return, Toyota still up in air

By Bob Pockrass - Associate Editor
Saturday, June 20, 2009
Red Bull Racing's Brian Vickers will start from the pole in Sunday's Toyota/Save Mart 350 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race at Infineon Raceway. (David Griffin / NASCAR Scene)

Red Bull Racing's Brian Vickers will start from the pole in Sunday's Toyota/Save Mart 350 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series race at Infineon Raceway.

David Griffin
NASCAR Scene

SONOMA, Calif. – Red Bull Racing driver Brian Vickers has won back-to-back poles in a Toyota Camry, but to hear his boss talk, it doesn’t sound like that will make a difference on whether Red Bull remains a Toyota team.

Red Bull is in its final year of its Toyota contract, and there has been speculation that Red Bull, could move to Chevrolet (without manufacturer support).

But wouldn’t two consecutive poles make the team brass think twice about going to a new manufacturer, especially after being one of Toyota’s initial teams when it entered Cup in 2007?

“Ask them,” Red Bull Racing general manager Jay Frye said at Infineon Raceway Saturday. “Obviously Toyota has been great to us. We’ve been one of their freshman teams and all that. We appreciate everything they’re doing and continue to do.

“We’re going through lots of different scenarios right now. There’s a lot going on in the world and it’s been reported that our deal is up with them at the end of the year and it’s possible they don’t want us to come back, right? It’s possible. Or it’s possible they want us to come back but they can’t for some reason do that. Anything is possible.”

Toyota Racing Development senior vice president Dave Wilson said the manufacturer wants to continue the relationship with Red Bull and there have been discussions to extend the relationship. There have been reductions in Toyota’s total racing budget, but Wilson said the manufacturer wants to have 10-12 cars on the track.

“We have a great deal of loyalty to those guys,” Wilson said. “They slogged it out in the tough entry period in ’07 and obviously we should have notched a couple of victories with Red Bull. We’re certainly not looking to change that.”

Frye said there is no time frame to make a decision.

“Again, [Toyota] has been great,” Frye said. “We’ll see here shortly what is the next step.”

The other contract Red Bull needs to get finalized is the one for Vickers. Frye indicated that everything just needs a look in the corporate offices in Austria.

“Everything is agreed, done, just the legalese stuff and things like that are going on right now. There’s no [issues],” Frye said.

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  1. 1
    robert93072 said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 4:13 PM

    The bull needs both Vickers and the toyota power they are improving and could make the chase

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    dale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 4:41 PM

    hahaha where is msp lmao you said theyd make a decison to go too toyota last Wednesday and guess what their notttttt heyyyyy brian time to go too chevyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yeaaa babyyyyyyyyyy

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    dale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    then youd become an elite team like SHR and RCR

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    galvan18244 said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 4:46 PM

    Red bull should swtich to chevy, and with help from hendrick engines, red bull will finally be a good team, oh and kick out scott speed!

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 5:25 PM

    #2, Brian came out today and as far as he knows Red Bull is staying with Toyota and don't believe the rumors. Ill believe him before I believe anyone else.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 5:31 PM

    Who's leaving who......who's being true......and who just don't care anymore.....lol

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 6:19 PM

    Is that a song Gwen?

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    dale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 6:22 PM

    lol gwen and OK MPS but i seriously hope he goes to chevy it would be awsome

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 6:34 PM

    If Red Bull ever went to Chevy. They would have to use either RCR or HMS power plants. It would be a death sentence for Brian. Do you think that HMS would give him anything that could win after what happened there in 2006. They will never forget that and I know that for a fact.

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    dale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 6:37 PM

    HOLD ON REFRESH MY MEMORY what happened back in 06????????????

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 6:42 PM

    Talladega, Brian had a run on Johnson and Dale and he took them both out to win it. Rick was furious as was Jimmie and Chad. They will never let that rest. Brian knows that. So like I said, Do you think thet will get good motors from them?

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 6:51 PM

    MSP, yes that was part of a song. lol And Vickers is not the only one who has took Dale out and kept him from winning a race. Oh well it happens. lol

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 6:52 PM

    #2 How right you are... MSP talked to Vickers and was assured Red Bull isn't leaving toyota. I said it a week and half ago that they are thinking of making the move. Brian Vickers doesn't have a thing to do with what Red Bull does. They run two cars and one doesn't make the cut half the time. MSP is as always blowing hot air around. What MSP fails to tell you that Rick Hendrick and Dietrich Mateschitz are friends. Mr Hendrick is a business man not a man who carries a grudge. I get my information from Chevy Racing. Gwen, you should know by now my information is real and not made up.

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 6:55 PM

    MSP now Brian came out today and told you??? A week ago you said the same thing. At least remember what lies you tell.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 7:11 PM

    Well, Everyone was out here at the display today including Jay and Dave Wilson. And everybody was all smiles and having fun. Even Ivan Stewart was here today with everyone. #13, You are some old man in Goose Creek, SC that knows nothing about what goes on in the world of NASCAR except what you find out by some of your GM fluky's that you still have ties too and what you get from the internet.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 7:12 PM

    Well, Everyone was out here at the display today including Jay and Dave Wilson. And everybody was all smiles and having fun. Even Ivan Stewart was here today with everyone. #13, You are some old man in Goose Creek, SC that knows nothing about what goes on in the world of NASCAR except what you find out by some of your GM fluky's that you still have ties too and what you get from the internet. Smoke a little more!

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 7:35 PM

    I am an old man 60 in fact who is going to meet you face to face at Atlanta Speedway. My GM flunky's have been right on haven't they? Every thing I wrote turned out to be true. I can't wait for you to tell me face to face your thoughts on pot smoking Vietnam Vets... You will see what a 60 year old Vet can do. I just might invite the Atlanta VFW to come along. How come no one at Chevy racing every heard of you. Your name is Howard Englishman isn't it?

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 7:49 PM

    You haven't said one thing that we didn't already know. bring the VFW, bring your whole town. Your a stupid old man that thinks that GM is still #1 but the truth is they will need our taxpayers money to keep them afloat. And why would Chevy Racing know who I am. Get a Life, I am out here every weekend, I don't have nothing to hide like you.

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 8:34 PM

    motorsportsphotography said:Jun 12, 2009 at 9:03 PM Lets just say this is the end of factory support forever in all 3 Series. It was no surprise to anyone. NASCAR will survive but as far as any new technology coming down from them it is over. And as far as money from them. So you never said Chevy factory support will end.... Hmmmm looks that way chump.

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 8:43 PM

    MSP you asked a good question.. Why would Chevy racing know you. Been trying to figure out why they never heard of you over the last 15 years. As far as your tax dollar or dollars money well spent... After all toyota and honda received 3 billion to build cars here and tax breaks. They make money and haven't repaid any of it.

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 8:46 PM

    This is about Red Bull and changing to Chevy. I have not gone out on a limp with this, but I am pretty sure the change is coming. A lot hinges on Vickers making the chase.

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    JGRFan4Life said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM

    I think Red Bull has a great chance to win, that said, I hope they remain with Toyota. And I still believe letting A.J. go for Speed was a huge mistake. Don't let A.J's performance fool you at RPM, they're using the same technique Evernham/GEM did, giving Kahne the best equipment.

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    JGRFan4Life said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM

    I think Red Bull has a great chance to win, that said, I hope they remain with Toyota. And I still believe letting A.J. go for Speed was a huge mistake. Don't let A.J's performance fool you at RPM, they're using the same technique Evernham/GEM did, giving Kahne the best equipment.

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    JGRFan4Life said:
    Jun 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM

    I think Red Bull has a great chance to win, that said, I hope they remain with Toyota. And I still believe letting A.J. go for Speed was a huge mistake. Don't let A.J's performance fool you at RPM, they're using the same technique Evernham/GEM did, giving Kahne the best equipment.

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    harref said:
    Jun 21, 2009 at 3:26 PM

    They'll be in Toyotas or Fords. Jay Frye might have been with Chevrolet in the past but here is no money or technology available. They would be 5th or 6th fiddle in the GM camp and possibly behind GM's Pro Stock NHRA teams. Now if Honda....

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    trtruckin said:
    Jun 21, 2009 at 3:49 PM

    Doesn't make to much a difference what you drive anymore. The COT has taken care of that. Truth is Brian is a good driver who is finally finding himself and his true talents since he's maturing. And that is total hog wash about Rick Hendricks holding a grudge against Brian for taken out the chosen two. That was a racin deal and could have easily taken out all three cars. Anyone who thought that was deliberate is an idiot and Mr. H ain't no idiot. Smart businessman yes but no idiot.

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    trtruckin said:
    Jun 21, 2009 at 3:53 PM

    I'm a Vietnam vet too. I don't use the weed, but I'd love to be there for your meeting of the minds. I'd love to see your foot about 10 inches up his mind, so do it well my friend!!!!!!!!

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    allshookup said:
    Jun 22, 2009 at 7:52 AM

    Nascar would be better without Toyotas in it!
    Period!

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    psdf250 said:
    Jun 22, 2009 at 10:03 AM

    Good words SS396Chevelle. As a member of the VFW, DAV, and a proud Vietnam Vet I share #27's comments and would love to see that meeting between you and MSP. In fact make sure he has to have your foot surgically removed from you know where. But can you save this for California in October?

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    psdf250 said:
    Jun 22, 2009 at 10:50 AM

    SS396Chevelle. your words to MSP we're great and as a member of the VFW, DAV, and Vietnam Vet I would love to see that little meeting.But how can you doubt such a person of great stature in the NASCAR community. I mean some one who is on such a first name basis with everyone in the garage and beyond can't be that far off.By the way, can you please save that meeting with MSP for California in October?

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    psdf250 said:
    Jun 22, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    Opps I didn't think the first post got in.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jun 22, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    This is for SS396CHEVELLE:(and this has nothing to do with the article)I hope you come back and read this SS396CHEVELLE. When I was a young teenager our youth group at church prayed for our men in Vietnam. Sunday mornings, Sunday nights, Wednesday nights or whenever we were at church. We each prayed separately, but out loud. We prayed for God to watch over each and every one of you and for your safe return home. You were spared to return home for whatever reason. Little did I know then that I would one day be commenting on a NASCAR article with you.:-) I remember the ending of the war was bitter/sweet (if you will)and know what the reaction from a lot of people were and it wasn't all pretty! I thank you and every other Veteran that served for our Great U.S.A. and I have the utmost respect for each and every one of you! That war is over, but will never be forgotten! On Veteran's day every year from here on out, I will always remember SS396CHEVELLE. My hat is off to you and every man, or woman who has served, still serving, or will ever serve our country! With all that being said, I am going to say to you, don't do anything foolish, because there are a lot of people who are grateful to all men and women of uniform past, present and future! Thank you! (Gwen_Susie388)

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    trtruckin said:
    Jun 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM

    gwen_susie388,,,,,I just fell in love with you! Thank you for your open, heart felt paragraph. I'm one of those Vets that thanks you for every prayer you, your church, or anyone else ever sent our way. I pray every single day for the safety of those who wear a United States Military Uniform and their families who support them. I love this Country!!and those who have ever served it!!

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    psdf250 said:
    Jun 23, 2009 at 11:04 AM

    Thank You #32. It's people like you that made those days in '68 worth it.

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