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NASCAR puts Busch, Edwards on six-race probation
By SceneDaily Staff
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
Kyle Busch (18) battles with Carl Edwards in last Saturday's Sharpie 500 at Bristol Motor Speedway.
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NASCAR announced Wednesday it has placed Kyle Busch and Carl Edwards on probation for the next six Sprint Cup Series races as a result of their on-track brush on the cool-down lap of last Saturday night's Sharpie 500 at Bristol Motor Speedway.
The sanctioning body said that Joe Gibbs Racing's Busch and Roush Fenway Racing's Edwards both violated NASCAR's rule against hitting another competitor’s car after the conclusion of a race.
Busch and Edwards, who are 1-2 in the series standings with a combined 14 wins in 2008, first made contact late in Saturday night's race when Edwards nudged Busch out of the way to take the lead with 31 laps remaining.
Busch, who finished second to Edwards, bumped into Edwards on the cool-down lap to express his displeasure with the Roush Fenway driver's winning move.
Edwards immediately retaliated by spinning Busch before doing his traditional backflip and heading to victory lane.
The probation takes effect beginning with this weekend’s Pepsi 400 at Auto Club Speedway in California.
Mentioned Drivers: Carl Edwards
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77 F said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 11:27 AMLOL! What's that mean? Six race probation. :)
liz labroska said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 11:38 AMOh, come on Nascar, It's no wonder Nascar ratings are down! Bristol was always a bumping and grinding race,it used to be exciting to watch the races, now they are really dull, zzzzzzz
hark said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 11:54 AMI doubt Carl minds to much, it was worth seeing Kyle get spun out...
Shari Black said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 11:59 AMNASCAR is a joke. It might as well be WWE. Everything is staged and scripted. Let them race. So, they can't race each other until the last races of the season. What is this? A soap opera? Are we suppose to be watching until they are off probation and then expect them to race each other. Guess what Nascar and ratings? I'm not watching.
BARBARA KING said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:03 PMWhy should Carl get punished for Kyle's doing? Should make it interesting with his temper to see if he can go that long without getting into trouble. I still think he should have been deducted some points just like other drivers are.
Jay said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:04 PMIf you thought the Bristol race was boring, you obviously weren't there. I do agree that Nascar needs to let them race, but that's what they are doing. They can say they acted on the situation, but in reality they did nothing but said they were going to watch the situation, like the rest of us.
Peggy Thacker said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:10 PMJust what I figured...Kyle got a slap on the wrist, and I dont think Edwards should of had anything done to him. They took points away from another driver for doing what kyle did...but guess now Nascar has a new "Pet"! Nascar just keeps going downhill and getting crappier! Maybe Carl will be like Tony..catch Kyle off the track, and let him have it like Tony did Kurt! We can only hope!
David Fields said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:32 PMWell NASCAR is hoping Kyle will pull them out of the ratings drop they're experiecing, but in reality they're only hurting themselves with the fans by their absence of fair punishment and boring races...Kyle should have recieved more punishment than Carl simply because he started the after race altercation and then made threats during his interview that clearly showed he intends to wreck Carl some more. NASCAR needs to look at the empty grandstands and realize that their plan ain't working !!!! I'm a big Bristol fan and I agree that the race was BORING as compared to past races at Bristol. NASCAR has become a "Pit Road Race" because who ever gains the lead out of the pits usually keeps it and can't be passed in this COT junk. Wake up NASCAR!
anonymous said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:41 PMKyle won't be able to stay out of trouble for 6 races. It's just not his nature. His temper will get the best of him and then he will be punished justly by points and fines. Can't wait for it to happen. He won't let us down.
paul weichman said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:44 PMyou think bush edwards is bad. look at the bud shoot out the rich get richer the poor gets poor
del brown said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:49 PMEven though I'm not a member of Carl's Crowd there's little doubt the in-race bump and run was artfully done and standard operating procedure at Bristol. Kyle probably shouldn't have bump-rubbed Carl after the race. But he did. And Carl probably shouldn't have spun Kyle out after that. But he did. Bristol or not - both moves were against the rules. Whatever NASCAR did - either a "just Bristol" wink-wink or a penalty - had to apply to both. All in all NASCAR's six week probation was itself artful. It put the drivers on notice while letting the racing between the two return to "normal" for the final races.
Darrell Driskell said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 1:20 PMProbation? Let him race and express themselves.. They each got each other and that's the end of it.. It was on the track and not on pit road, so no harm, no foul! What is nasar going to do if something else happens between them? Put them on Double Secret Probation? lol You know they won't park or suspend them. Leave well enough alone!
Shari Black said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 1:45 PMHa! Good point! What is Nascar going to do, if Kyle, does indeed, lose control and wreck someone? Are they truly prepared to sit him down...the new "golden boy/joe gibbs/toyota posterchild" of nascar. Hope they have thought that through.
4da88 said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 1:59 PMFitting! The penalty is for actions after the race. The two can race just as hard as they always do. Having said that, I believe as Paul #10 the Shoot Out is a bigger story. Look for it.
beth emerson said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:06 PMThey did wha they thought was fair. i dont think it was other drivers for doing the same thing lost points. That is not fair they should have both also lost 50 points. As far as Them being the face of nascar dream on they are two punks.
Jill Abercrombie said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:16 PMI think Kyle should get more than 6 races. He turned into an arrogant person. I wish Edwards would have rammed him into the wall. I know Carl and he is a clean driver. Kyle just doesnt like losing. He needs a time out!!!
Jill Abercrombie said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:20 PM50 points, thats it. We know it cost more to fix the cars due to hot heads! Man, if it was 415 points - Junior would be in first place. Now that would be GRE88T!!
Juniegirl said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:23 PMI'm not even a CE fan, but if Carl was going to get penalized for being provoked by that jerk, I wish that he had just gone ahead a dragged that punk out of the car at the start/finish line and spanked him right in front of the crowd! That would have been worth it all! NASCAR, why are you giving CE the same punishment when he was provoked by that twig?
Robert said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:29 PMGiving Kyle Busch a warning that he is on probation is kind of like your mother saying she is going to count to three. She always starts over after she gets to three the first time if nothing changes. I'm sure these warnings they put on the drivers go in one ear and out the other. If they do it again, Nascar will warn them that this time they really mean it, just like Mom.
said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:37 PMYou bunch of stupid people, really some of the things you write are a laugh. Nascar did just enough and had to do the same for both drivers. After all Carl spun Kyle out which is worst that a little tap. I hope neither one of them win the championship. I'm really getting of both of them at this point. I did not appreciate Carls fowl mouth in Victory Lane, so he is off my list of nice guys. At least i've never heard Kyle use a fowl word in victory lane. correct me if i'm wrong, but i'm not. I'd really like to see a nice guy win the championship like Burton or Harvick at this point i would even take Jr. I am not a fan of any of the Hendricks drivers.
Joe Kiesecker said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PMthe race was great, especially when carl moved kyle. just like the old days when rubbin was racin, grow up kyle!
Larry Taylor said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:41 PMAs great as the rivalry has turned out, who will se it.... does anyone (other than the lame management at Fontana) see just how absurd the "after 10:00 PM EDT start time for the Nationwide race on Friday and the presumably late green flag on Sunday night for the cup race. If Stater didn't give away tickets in the thousands, no one...no one would be at Fontanta / California / Auto Club / name du jour track this weekend. What an absolutely hideous place to have a race in front of empty grandstands. Or, more aptly put....a weed between two roses...Fontana race in between Bristol & Richmond. Maybe if the folks on the left coast came east to visit Richmond & Bristol, they would see how to host a race....and this track gets rewarded with a Chase date...how absurd does it get?
robert evans said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:47 PMhas it been anyne else it would have been probation fines and point deduction what's up with this 6 week suspention
Steve Elkin said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:10 PMHey nascar, did you hear the roar of the crowd when Carl turned that 'Yoda? Thank God the NHRA nationals are on 'cause I ain't watching nascar!
Evelyn Montonen said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:16 PMI agree with 77 F WHAT DOES PROBATION MEAN ??? Are they racing or not ??? It figures that NASCAR Officials would use "double talk" they haven't got a BACKBONE amongst the lot of them !!!
linda smythers said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:16 PMprobation ? don't make me laugh a little slap on the wrist. they should have been fined and lost some points... that is nothing
Tim Duval said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:16 PMA couple of rich guys should tap into some retired and out of work drivers and start a new stock car racing league. It might take some time, but I bet fans that turn NASCAR off would tune in. Fans still need their fix, and if NASCAR is the only "supplier", then that is where the race "junkies" will go. Bring in some competition and I betcha NASCAR listens.
Tim Duval said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:20 PMI really think it is just time for a house cleaning in the NASCAR offices.... Get rid of rule makers and bring in some excitement. Brian France is NOT getting the job done.
Clark Rice said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:33 PMNASCAR just doesn't understand, What was the most excitement of the race, when was the crowd at its best... When CE spun the other guy.. THAT IS WHAT GETS THE CROWD UP AND READY..
R Philip Rogers said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 4:10 PMI recommend we have Kyle and Carl "take it outside" to settle their differences like men. Put it on pay per view with the proceeds going for charity.
Tom Coggins said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 4:27 PMThis move by NASCAR doesn't deserve a comment, if the end had not of happened like it did next year there would probably be plenty of seats at Bristol, it was 460 laps of snooze and 40 laps of excitement.
del brown said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 4:53 PMFrom NASCAR rule book ---- "Section 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing; hitting another competitor's car after the race had concluded)". Doesn't matter if it's on the track or pit road or whatever. It's still an infraction. If NASCAR ignored it there would still be people that griped that NASCAR wasn't enforcing it's own (often nebulous) rules. And since drivers both drivers broke the rule whatever happened to one had to happen to the other. What happens if either ones messes up? Could be anything from another wrist slap to monetary and points fines to parking the driver. It all depends on circumstances and NASCAR's interpretation. Especially as to intention. It isn't a perfect system by any means but it is what everyone from teams to fans have to endure.
Bill Maier said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 5:01 PMThis whole thing is a joke, along with the biggest joke of all NASCAR. Bristol was my last race.
Vickie Gerlach said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 5:35 PMOf course Kyle should have been punished more than Carl. He started it...he always does. I don't know why Nascar thinks he is their new golden boy...his attitude makes me sick. I used to collect M&M's...I have gotten rid of all my collectable stuff and have even quit eating M&M's...can't even look at them!! Someone, someday will teach this little punk a lesson! I hope I will still be watching Nascar to see it....but right now, I'm pretty bored with it. They should have taken points away from him...then we could sit back and watch him loose the championship...by that many points...then maybe he will learn to control his temper and his mouth!
Gladys Bedwell said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 6:12 PMPersonally I don't think either one of them should have gotten anything cause at the beginning of the season NASCAR said they would not punish the drivers for showing a little emotion. This was done on the track, not in the pits, not around others who could be hurt. Give me a break. The hit Kyle gave Carl wasn't even that bad. They should have given them a warning to keep their emotions to a minimum to prevent esculation in case it happens again.
John Lockhart said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:07 PMSIX RACE PROBATION!Come on NASCAR,from all the reports I thought that NASCAR wanted a rivalry to boost ratings.But I guess they had to do something to keep a hold on the situation.I still think that Carl did a cool thing at BRISTOL.
ANNE OBERGFELL said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:17 PMCARL MOMMIES BOY SAID HE WILL HIT KYLE WHEN GIVEN THE CHANCE AGAIN HE IS A SPOILED BRAT. GO KYLE GO
Grover rickman said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:17 PMIf carl Edwards will punch the BIG EARED SHRUB in the nose I will a Edwards fan the next 10yrs.Nascar is turning into IROC, IROC,IROC races are all BORING!!!!!!!!!!!
charlie walsten said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:20 PMI am a proud C.E. fan and am glad he gave kyle some of his own medicine. But kyle hit carl first, so kyle should have had points taken away. Nascar is not consistant with there penalities. maybe kyle will grow up some day.
Jeane Busby said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:21 PMKyle is a whining punk i get sick of hearing his name and he should have had points deducted it seems as its everyones fault but KYLES and he will do what ever it takes for him to win.
Melissa LaRouche said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:21 PMI have to say they both got what they deserved. Kyle may have been wrong but that didn't give Carl the right to turn around and hit and spin Kyle. Carl was wrong too and two wrongs don't make a right so the punishment is fitting and there is no need for points to be taken. It was a in the heat of the moment incident. Carl Edwards isn't as innocent as some make him out to be. If you listened to his press pass after the race that right there shows you he is who he is. He is a great driver but he isn't perfect and neither is Kyle
Cathy Rooks said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:46 PMPlease Kyle bump somebody now!! Come on!! Do it!!! #42 won't let you pass!! It is long passed due for you to get in trouble for your actions! WAY TO GO NASCAR!!! IT'S ABOUT TIME!!
Jo Ray said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:55 PMShowing he has normal feelings when being taunted is not a fault. I'm proud that someone has the guts to show both control at times and getting hacked off at others. Carl does not deserve all the name calling I am reading. He is a tallented young man.I also believe was a good way to say they did something equal for both. We need a little emotion in the sport.
4da88 said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 8:24 PMI'm all for the spanking!! If Carl had done that in the first place instead of spinning the twig's car he probably would not have been put on probation. No doubt in my mind that Carl could beat the shrub to a pulp. But Carl, none the less, is on probation. It will be up to another driver that kb has gotten into and wrecked to tick him off. We have plenty left.
shirley smith said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 8:24 PMNASCAR I don't think you should have done anything to Edwards. I'm not a fan of Edwards but I was glad someone has stood up to that little smartelic.Bush It's about time someone does. Why did you(NASCAR) take any points away? You should have taken a lot from Bush
Lisa Fields said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 9:09 PMHey, Like him or not, Kyle Bush is ON Fire! Yes he should not have shown his frustration on the track, but neither should Mr. ED...LOL I say, let them duke it out after the race with 10 rounds of bare knuckle boxing! That would be sweet! Go Tony Stewart!!!
Laura Sharp said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 9:28 PMI think that the twig is a smart mouth, egotistical, smug s.o.b.!! He is just like a spoiled little brat that throws a temper tantrum when things don't go his way. What he needs a real good spanking! I never was a real big fan of Carl's, until that moment. Too bad twig wasn't slammed into the wall, wouldn't have hurt my feelings none.
kenny mckinney said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 10:02 PMmaybe nascar should just make a timeout box at each track, that way when someone does something related to racing and the crowd enjoys it and it boosts ratings they can sit in the bad boy box for a couple hours to think about there wrong doings...what a joke.. ratings going down down down....soon the name will change to asscar...lol
emily bagwell said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 10:10 PMI don't know why all of you are even wasting your time responding to this or getting upset. This crappy penaty is a waste of time and is not worth the paper it is written on!! In essence, NASCAR has done nothing to either of the two hotheads. Par for the course. Way to go NASCAR. If you last long enough, maybe one day you will get it RIGHT!!!
scott harris said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 12:58 AMholy give kyle and carl 6 week probation when u fine some one (dale jr) for swearin in victory lane
GREG LEHMAN said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 7:08 AMplease NASCAR i myself am getting tied of watching the kyle and edwards show. we know that JGR isn't scared to cheat, and i don't care for a ford driver so i hope the last 10 races go a little better.
Lisa Shaver-Steingart said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 8:10 AMProbation . . . . are they for real?!?!?! It's like, "Okay kids, it's the time out chair for you!" I'd liked to have seen them do that to Earnhardt Sr. What a joke.
Brad Sargent said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 8:17 AMBRAD said: I have been a fan of NASCAR since 1968 and over the years there has been good things happen in the sport but lately it's got too political. NASCAR give me a break! Kyle Bush is probably and already is better than Dale Sr. ever was. He doesn't deserve any probation period for that. I hope he cleans house for many years to come.
Colleen Bowen said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 8:20 AMI hope JPM is in the lead and Kyle does it to him. It will be the last time Kyle messes with him.
Teresa Geer said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 8:36 AMNascar, You need to be fair to all the drivers. Kyle busch needed to loose points and a fine for what he did. He's already wrecked JR and put him in the wall and now Carl. I am proud of Carl for what he did. I only wished it was kyle's face. Nascar, what are you going to do to him when he does wreck carl for the chase? He's already made that threat several times now. If you don't start treating all drivers with the same fines, you are going to loose alot of the fans.
Julie Moll said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 9:37 AMIn response to Brad Sargent (54): Dale Earnhardt, Sr. had more talent and class in his little finger than Kyle Busch will ever have.Show a little respect for a legend & don't compare him to an immature, smug and classless driver like Busch.
sally whan said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 9:55 AMGOOD WAY TO GO JULIE,YOU ARE RIGHT DALE SR AND DALE JR HAVE MORE TALENT THAN KYLE WILL EVER HAVE HE IS NOTHING BUT A CRY BABY AND CRYS ALL THE TIME HE DONT GET HIS WAY.AND NASCAR YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE ALL THE FANS IF YOU DONT STOP BABY THAT PUNK,HE SHOULD HAVE LOST POINTS AND PUT ON LEAVE FOR ALL HE HAS DONE IN EVER CLASS HE PUTS PEOPLE OUT AND ALL YOU DO IS SLAP HIS HANDS WHAT IS THE DEAL...ARE YOU ALL SCARE OF THE BABY OR WHAT???WAKE UP AND BE FAIR..YOU TAKE POINTS AWAY FROM OTHER DRIVERS FOR LOT LESS AND NOW YOU DO THIS..IF NOT FOR JR I WOULD NOT EVEN WATCH THE NASCAR..AND WHEN HE QUITS SO WILL I,YOU ARE NOT FAIR AND THINK YOU HAVE A BABY FOR A CHAMP I SURE HOPE NOT AND I HOPE SOME ONE TAKES HIM OUT AND PUT HIM IN THE WALL LIKE HE DOES EVERYBODY ELSE...GO GET HIM GUYS
otis gleason said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 1:33 PMMustang sally get a grip! Kyle busch is a kid! Maturity is aways yet Having said that Let me say the kid has won more races than the late great Dale SR. did at the same age and did it cleaner,Nascar has been hammering gibbs for the last month,that will not slow this kid down.
oink jackson said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 8:36 PMIs Worn dirt sick?
emily bagwell said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 10:14 PMDitto, Julie Moll
anonymous said:
Aug 29, 2008 at 7:12 AMHey Otis, Dale Sr didn't start the Cup series when he was 18 like Kyle did - get your facts straight before you make another stupid post comparing KB and Dale Sr.
shirley dorrington said:
Aug 29, 2008 at 8:59 AMditto Moll. and taylors points are well are well taken.a four o'clock race start would man noon in Cal. but then in California noon seems to be their early morning, poor souls.I have been an avid fan since before they paved the tracks and now I watch the start and about 20 laps then go do something else and check in about 20 min later or perioically unless BE has the pole then I go watch something else. Chinese pingpong is very exciting.....by the way there is another Earnhardt Kerry lets give him some support eve if he is stuck with DEI.