Kenny Bruce: Dale Earnhardt Jr. flying under the NASCAR radar?

By Kenny Bruce - Assistant Managing Editor
Saturday, January 31, 2009
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Dale Earnhardt Jr. is entering his second NASCAR Sprint Cup season with Hendrick Motorsports.

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COMMENTARY

According to official fan voting, he’s still the sport’s most popular driver. And heading into his 10th season as a full-time NASCAR Cup competitor, his fans continue to believe that his best days on the race track are just ahead of him.

For Dale Earnhardt Jr., could 2009 really be the year of the Great Turnaround?

Unlike previous years, news regarding the 34-year-old Hendrick Motorsports driver – whether racing-related or otherwise – hasn’t dominated the offseason. His every move hasn’t resulted in an attention-grabbing headline. The newness of the move to Hendrick has long worn off. Those bold predictions that  “this will be the year” from his faithful followers still exist but appear to be a bit less evident these days.

No, Earnhardt Jr. has not been forgotten. Far from it. The expectations, his own as well as those of his well-meaning fans, remain firmly in place. But it’s hard to shake the feeling that this has been a surprisingly quiet offseason for a driver who shoulders the hopes of so many.

That might, in many ways, be a good thing. A very good thing.

All that attention, which in many ways was simply a product of an overly active marketing group, may have helped assure his status as an icon in the sport, but it did little to improve results on the race track. And it’s my guess that the bulk of his fans follow him because of his on-track efforts, not because he wears a certain brand of jeans.

But popularity and success on the race track don’t go hand in hand. The guy with the most billboards, or music video appearances, still has to produce behind the wheel.

No one knows for certain the real reasons for his lack of success in recent seasons. Some felt he wasn’t focused enough on his driving career and too focused on being a celebrity. Only Earnhardt Jr. knows if that was the case. But no one just falls into, and maintains, a career in NASCAR’s Cup series. Every driver is out there because he wants to be. Likewise, no one just falls into 18 career victories. Winning is the result of talent and hard work.

Others believe his troubles can and should be pinned on his crew chief and cousin Tony Eury Jr. The guy who guided Earnhardt Jr. to one win in 2008, a spot in The Chase For The Sprint Cup, and a 12th-place finish in the point standings. Was that satisfactory? No, of course not. And both Earnhardt Jr. and Eury will admit as much. But considering that those results came in the first season with a new organization, it could have been much worse. It’s no secret that two of Earnhardt Jr.’s teammates at the time failed to win a single race last year, and one missed the Chase entirely. Neither of those drivers debuted with Hendrick Motorsports in 2008.

It’s unlikely that Earnhardt Jr. is through winning races. And just as unlikely to think he won’t be a championship threat. He’s too talented and his team too good. The biggest problem he faces is the fact that the number of talented drivers with able crews continues to grow.

But he’s not alone. With Daytona looming on the horizon, it’s a problem every team faces heading into the new season.

Perhaps the silence is a sign that the outside distractions have been kept to a minimum. Maybe the adage “another year older, another year wiser” rings true. Then again, maybe not.

For now, his many fans can only hope. And wait.

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  1. 1
    Brenda Thompson said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 9:35 AM

    I hope the best for DaleJr.in 2009!!! He really needs it.So does Jr. Nation.We all love him and are just waiting for him to show everyone what he's made of!!!! We know he's got what it takes.Come on Junebug show everyone what you can do!!!!!I am really happy that the race season is ready to start.Too long with no races.

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    Kim Palmer said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    Hey JR nation, quick question for ya'll. Would you all be head over heels in love with him if his last name was "Jones" and his daddy was a shoes salesman from Chicago? I like Jr too and wanna see him do good, this is not means a disrespectful question by any means, but a question none the less. Long live Big "E" The BIG "3"

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    The pressure is on him this season more than ever, He is in his 2nd season with HMS and now here comes Mark, hungary for wins and a championship. Mark has one goal at HMS,a last shot at a Daytona win and a championship. Ricks hires people that he knows are the best in the business, he gives them all the same tools to win. And Dale knows this, if he doesnt perform this season and gets shown up by Mark, look for changes to come quick.

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    Wolverine Fan said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    If he flies any lower. He will clip the treetops. Another article of excuses. Why is Tony Jr. names mentioned again? It is stated, one reason. He is focused on being a celebrity. Let's take this one, minimize our time in front of the camera and give a it a go. If you are unsuccessful in 2008 because of certain activities. Toss those activities aside and see what happens.

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  5. 5
    said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    And what if Jr's team mate Jeff Gordon doesn't win again this year? Will changes be made there too???? Why is everyone so down on Jr and what the expectations are? Why aren't there any articles weekly about those other high profile drivers that didn't even make the Chase last year? i.e. Kurt Busch, Ryan Newman, Martin Truex Jr., Kasey Kahne. Will those teams face changes too if they don't perform again. (with the exception of Ryan). What are the expectations of Stewart/Haas Racing? Will we be reading the same about them this time next year, after only one year as a new team. The only ones making a big deal out of Jr is the media, just like the "speculators" and "analysts drove up the price of oil. The media drives this train.

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    Wolverine Fan said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Jr. is driving for one the best organizations for Nascar. The best from him is expected. As stated: he is given the best people, equipment. If winning is the not result, changes will occur, I agree. A question: if Jr. is operating at his best, what will occur?

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    Arthur Trim said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    He has 17 victories,11 yrs. in Cup, 1.7 victories per yr. Do the arithmetic, compare wins with Gordon, Kenseth, Stewart, Johnson, Kurt Busch, Kyle Busch, Newman. He is as good a driver as he will ever be! He has always had the best equipment that money could buy! Budweiser alone spent in excess of 70 million dollars! Get over it! He is not and has not been NASCAR's greatest. Kelly has help make him a s*** pot full of money. He will retire in 12-14 yrs. 28-32 wins if he is lucky and MAYBE a championship. That is as good as it will get!

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:48 AM

    Again Said, the drivers you mentioned except for Martin were all under powered last year.Dodge did not get NASCARs approval for the new motor and testing was put behind. That is one of the reasons Ray walked away from this sport. As far as Jeff is concerned he is a 7 time champion his reputation speaks for itself. In 97 Sr. went winnless and came back.

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    Bernadette Motherway said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:17 PM

    Jr. has refused to see the Hendrick 'head shrink' unlike the other drivers and crews. I think that this would be good for him. I don't think he as gone through a healthy grieving process about his father. I believe this would help focus and succeed.

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    Randy Palmer said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:21 PM

    The answer Kim Palmer question for me is yes.

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    Sheila Hawley said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    Jeff is a 7 time Champion? Where have I been? I only counted 4. 1995, 1997, 1998, 2001.

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    Kendall King said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:23 PM

    Howard Jeff does not have 7 cup championships only 4. But yes after not winning in 97 Dale Sr came back and won the one that had always got away from him but did nothing else that year and Richard Childress made changes to the team with Dale and he went on to win a few more races and even finished 2 to Bobby Labonte in 2000 and all thought he was back and would take his 8th cup in 2001 before the good lord called him home. So I think if Dale jr or Jeff does not do better this year Rick will step in and make chnages.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    I was typing about Jeff and thinkin about Sr. my mistake.

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    Green Flag said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:30 PM

    Question was: For Dale Earnhardt Jr., could 2009 really be the year of the Great Turnaround?

    Answer is: No

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    Kendall King said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    I think the year will be better than last year for Jr but still not what is expected maybe two or three wins and mid field chase but that is about as good as it will get. I hope for better.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:35 PM

    Larry Mac did one good thing for Sr, and that was the 500. When RC replace him with Kevin you could see the change and he had a respectable year in 98.

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    andee anderson said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    09---48 first 5 second-24 third-88 out

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    Now you did it Andee!!!

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    marian mcclain said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    Junior is my favorite but he will never be the driver his father was. That said he is still good and people love him. I think he needs to be in better physical shape so he can with stand the longer races better. Also not to get so mad and maybe Tony,Jr needs to work on something besides the crew chief. I'm glad they are together but maybe in another capacity.He likes to have family around. I think he is a celebrity not by his own making and it is just there. Go Dale.

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    Pat Schwald said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 1:04 PM

    Answer: I like Jr for the man he is, not the father he had,dont get me wrong I liked Sr. I will be a Jr. fan always for the man he is first then the driver. Listen to him when he talks ..the feeling about driving,fans,family, friends! The only thing that could help him is to find a women that love's him for those reason's, for himself not what he has. I would love to see that happen. Next a championship or two. He does have it in him. I think Mark Martin can help..and will.

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    Bob Koba said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 1:19 PM

    Jr. is good, not great. Will win a few more but dont look for a championship, he likes his Bud and party time more. Dont blame the crew chief or team, its the driver who is not focused. I have listened to him when he talks-he shouldnt talk.

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    Lisa Fowler said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    One thing about our devotion to the Jr. Nation is that it is based on so many things. Of course, we want him to win and to get a championship. We really do not care what products he endorses, we will buy them because we love him. We watch every interview, every program, every move he makes and every word he speaks because we love the person that he is. We love his humor, his sincerity, his down to earth ways. Sure we know he lives in a mansion and flies in his private jets but we still feel like we could invite him into our living room and enjoy a beer and just hang out with him. That is why he continues to be the most popular driver.

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    Sarah Oxfurth said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 1:57 PM

    I dunno, Arthur-even if that's as good as it gets, it's nothing to shake a stick at, and it's better than...well, MOST NASCAR drivers! 28-32 wins...pretty good. A championship? Even better. I'm not a Jr. fan, per se, but I do like him, and I think he's a fine driver. I think he'll do better this year with some experience with HMS under his belt. I think people expect more out of Jr. than out of anyone else. Why is 32 career wins BAD for Jr., when it would be awesome for Waltrip? Tony Stewart has 33 career wins and is often touted as one of the best drivers ever in the sport.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:04 PM

    Pat, A pit lizard maybe,A real woman no. Hes too tied up in his friends and playin. Do you think that a girl wants a guy that when hes not racin he playin on the computer,ridin 4 wheelers,playin with karts. hes just a big kid at 34 and needs to take some pointers from Kelley and Kerry. They all have nice families.

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    Wolverine Fan said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:06 PM

    To post #21, to find a woman. He doesn't have a problem here. There are always girls. Why has he not chosen one? Who could put up with him? Who wants to be considered after his racing, family/friends, online gaming, oh, now he has time for his girlfriend/wife, whatever. He would stomp as a child when he didn't get his way.

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    debra bates said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    i give dale jr and jr nation all the respect in the world. this is going to be dale jr break out in 2009 hes all settled in now at henrick motor sports so go getem dale jr and the #88 team i behind you all the way good luck

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    Grover rickman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:20 PM

    To Kim Palmer, If his daddy was a famous shoe salesman named Dale Jones Yes we would all know him and buy shoes from him!!!!

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    Wolverine Fan said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:21 PM

    Jr. Nation, you are a positive people. I commend you.

    They will need more than luck.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:22 PM

    Its funny but him and Ryan are the only 2 in there class that have no championships. Matt,Kurt,Jimmie,and Tony all have gone on to win championships.This has to tell you something.And Ryan could possibly get his break now with Tony.

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    Green Flag said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:28 PM

    Who needs a nagging wife, anyway! Forget growing up, if getting married means you are grown up! I've met married couples where neither has grown up. Play, and Play hard.

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    Green Flag said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:30 PM

    What did post 27 say?

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    Donna Lund said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Well I know Jr. will do very well this year and with Mark coming on board at HMS we should see good things come from them ..I only wish Jr. the very best this year and I know he will come out swinging ..Jr. nation loves there man and stands behind there man no matter what ..When he shows all the people out there what he is made of will we see and hear different comments about him ..He is only human like the rest of us and only can do what he was put on this earth to do and that is drive it like u stole it ..Go Jr. Go!!!!!!

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    Nick Moody said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 3:38 PM

    #23 gets it!Love him or hate him, you're all reading about him and taking the time and effort to leave a comment and that's what the 6 time most popular driver is about.Growing up in an "Earnhardt fan" household produced many great times.However for me, I pulled for Jeff Burton(and I still do in a sense)before JR. hit the scene.But when the kid hit the scene, I took to him like my dad took to SR.And I've been there since day one.I will always be a fan and I will raise my children in an "Earnhardt fan" household whether he wins or loses.The thing about Jr. is you what you see is what you get, and that's what it is all about.If he never wins another race atleast he is "Real" and "true to himself".Unlike some other drivers, he won't sell out for a sponsor or owner.And I hope my kids will pick up on that.Best of luck in '09 and let's feed these doubters all the crow they can stand in November.

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    Green Flag said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 4:02 PM

    Sounds like that's what your feeding your kids!

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    phyllis hamilton said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    I wonder why all the people that says they don't like Jr talk about him all the time He must be on their mind all the time.I was never a fan of Sr and I am glad Jr doesn't try to act like him except maybe a time or two,then I wished he had just a little,so he would payback some drivers.I admire him for being who he is and staying sane.No other driver has ever been loved,hated discussed,told who to hire and fire when to workout,what to eat and drink and how much,or when to get a wife.I would be crazy by now, but Dale just calmly does interviews and stays the one we all love. They say growing older is something everyone does,but growing up is an option. My kids are in their forties,but they are all older than me.I'm still playing.GO DALE JR

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    Karen Barnes said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 4:21 PM

    Don't care if he never wins again. I'll always be a fan, not because of his talent as a driver but because he's a good guy and he's respected as a driver and a person. Being a fan isn't all about the racing.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 4:33 PM

    Phyllis, You said your glad that Dale doesnt act like Sr. There was nothing wrong with Sr. He was what a real stock car driver was all about. Not the money, just the winning like his dad. He was a real man and was rough and also was a great human being. Thats the problem with some of these new drivers they are not hungary like some of the others. To Sr. winning was everything and from 2nd on back was for the losers.When people get on here and say we dont care if he wins, why do you even bother watching because a true fan wants his driver to win. thats the problem today.

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    Green Flag said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 5:50 PM

    Howard, that's where you're wrong! Excuse me, but there would be no winners in the Sprint Cup series if there weren't 42 other participants. But I don't consider them 'losers'. As far as 'real man', there are 43 on the track when the green flag drops!

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    Patsi Wilbanks said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 5:53 PM

    Nascar is harder on him than they are on the other drivers. Just look at the penalties from the past,,,,I have heard filthy mouth from other drivers who never get a penalty....What about the fighting a few years back by the not so goodie Busch names....and not to mention the pickey penalties for the little things that are just smoothed over when it comes to Kylie or little Jimmie.....no one helps Jr out on the track and his job is twice as tough as any other drivers who's name might be Jones, or whatever...Jr used to be much more agressive (much like his old man...) especially in the Busch Series of years ago...but now...oh heaven forbid if Jr looks like he's gonna win...someone starts whinning. He's earning a paycheck doing just what he is allowed to do. I read alot of negative trash in here and I dish out my own. Everyone sees things their own way....and that's my take on the mess!!!!

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    angela conley said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 5:59 PM

    why all the whinning...these writers are getting exactly what they want. jr can never "fly under the radar" as long as there are writers out there that keep writing about him. they write about him when he is doing lotsa things and writing about him when he's "flying under the radar". give me a break. and all you non jr fans must have a lot of time on your hands. what's the matter, not enough being written about your driver? ENOUGH! it's sad that your driver's fans aren't as committed as jr nation.

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    Callaway said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 6:43 PM

    My question why does Dale Jr. have to be as good as his father? Where does it say he has to lead his life a certain way? Where does it say he needs to get married and settle down and have a litter of kids to be successful? The wonderful thing about web forums boards are they let perfect strangers to delve into other peoples lives they don't know and will never meet. Hey the kid hasn't had everything given to him he and Kelly at one point lived in public housing then dumped off to be raised by a father who was preoccupied with his career and a step mother who clearly wasn't planning on raising other peoples kids. It could possible be the Junior being the product of a broken home doesn't want to make the same mistakes his father did having three marriages and kids from three different women. He also can talk to one of his teammates about making poor marital choices I would imagine Jeff Gordan could fill him in on divorce settlements. If the kid is happy in his own skin pleased with his life so be it great because just because you bought a ticket doesn't mean you get to do anything but watch the show. I hope he feels no pressure what so ever this year and let the chips fall where they may. If your a true fan of Junior last year should have been rewarding enough for you to see this year will be more than likely better.

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    Pamela Gregory said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 7:19 PM

    I would love to ride 4 wheelers, race go carts, play putt putt, go boating, swimming, race on line, shoot pool, play with the dogs, take care of the critters with him anytime, and his friends would always be welcome. Don't ever rag on someones friends, they and your family are what gets you through the days, and playing is what keeps you young at heart.
    Rock on Jr Rock on!!!

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 7:36 PM

    Come on, You act like were talkin about a kid from a broken home without a family. Dale, Kelley, Kerry, and Taylor are all very close.Dale and Kelleys mom Brenda have been around them their entire life and still is. Sr. started dale in karting when he was 10 years old,sent him off to Oak Ridge Academy with Kelley to get a education and put him to work at the dealership.and gave him his first car to race. Yeah, Dale had to work hard to get what he has but so did Sr. If Sr. was alive Dale would be concentrating more on racing than all this other stuff. Like Teresa said, Your either a celebrity or a race car driver.

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    phyllis hamilton said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    I have a different opinion on what makes a man,Howard. i was a Buddy Baker fan then and didnt have another favorite until Dale Jr.My house looks like a Jr museum.I have tickets for both Dega races,so Dale Jr if you read this,win both races please.Carl,don't help Greg please.lol..

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    patricia jordan said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 7:49 PM

    junior doesnt have to be his dad ,as long as he loves racing ,and continues to race he will have a natural following , like it or not hes our man...........

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    Louanne Comfort said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 8:56 PM

    I can tell you all from the inside of Dale Jr's possey that the reason the talk about Jr has been so low key this off season is that....he has definitely gotten engaged and will make the announcement in the next 6 months of his wedding date. Me? I think it is time that he is ready to settle down and definitely think it will change his driving!!! Just you all wait and see what 2009 brings!!!

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 9:17 PM

    Louanne, if your talkin about Beth, She only about 14 years younger than Dale.lol

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    Debbi Barwood said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 9:51 PM

    Howard, Kelley is hardly a role model for having a family. What, she's 36 and already been through three husbands? Not what I would call a family person. Of course, none of them have good role models as far as keeping a marriage. Sr went through 3 wives in his short life.

    Jr has a lot of weight on his shoulders, and I think his heart is not totally in racing. Maybe what Teresa said to the Wall Street Journal wasn't all that incorrect. Maybe Jr is too interested in being a celebrity rather than a race car driver. He needs to get in better shape physically because in too many races during the summer, he looked like a wet dishrag and was totally exhausted. Maybe that's why he's better in the first half of races and stinks in the later laps. Even Jr himself said he would prefer the races to be shorter.

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    debra bates said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM

    WHO IS THE LUCKY WOMEN THEN I"M WONDERING MYSELF

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 10:28 PM

    Louanne If you are inside Jr's possy you would know he hasn't been that off key this break.Seeing him areound Mooresville haven't seen this lucky women who is she.Engaged? If he is I hope she knows she has hooked a great one and he deserves the best. So who is she and where did you get this info. Jackie Snyder

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    Debby Hall said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 10:44 PM

    For Louanne, the other discussion forums are saying a relationship ended around Xmas with his interior decorator and he has "friends with benefits" during the season. If he's gettin' engaged that would be very interesting, hopefully it's to someone free to marry him and is around his age. I believe he'll have a better season and I like him, Ryan Newman and Jeff Burton but Jr. is marketed so much that he is going to be under a microscope. Most of this offseason he was in the woods with a snow mobile or a gun. I guess radar only goes so far. lol.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 10:51 PM

    Debbi, Kelley has been married to Jimmy for years. There is no one closer to Dale than Kelley. When Kelley was diagnosed with cancer he was torn apart.lucky she is better.She is to Dale what Teresa was to Sr.As far as a girl, he was with a gire forahwile and her name was Beth. But shes 14 years younger than him.

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    said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:03 PM

    HEY # 2 kim palmer we jr nation fans like jr because of his personality and the respect for his fans and his family not because of his daddy just remember kimmy dear jrs daddy wasn't around jr hole carier so all you jr haters can just kiss jr nations fan _sses

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    Debby Hall said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:04 PM

    I just was surprised since the name "Beth" hasn't been mentioned anywhere, maybe you have to live in Mooresville to know these things. I just hope he has a long engagement when he does pick one to see if she will be able to handle everything because I don't think Jr. is a day at the beach for any girl.

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    Nick Moody said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:09 PM

    Hey GREEN FLAG!Don't worry about what I'm feeding my kids.Just who are you going to let influence your kids(assuming you have any with your comments)?You probably aren't true to who you are seeing how you have to hide behind a second rate screen name!

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    said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:11 PM

    hey # 49 deb barwood i would love to see you do just 20 laps in 100 degree weather plus being in the car with the heat of the exaust and the motor so before you open your mouth think first.

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    said:
    Jan 31, 2009 at 11:17 PM

    green flag is such a childish name he probable is just a kid don't let it bother you nick.

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    Debbi Barwood said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 12:01 AM

    Hey, 57, Mark Martin is a whole lot older than Jr and he doesn't look as washed out after races as Jr. Bobby Labonte is a lot older and he doesn't look as bad as Jr after a hot race. Jr drinks too much beer, becomes dehydrated during his races because he drinks too much during the week. Heck, every other driver, who sits in a hot car, looks better after races than Jr. He's not in good physical shape and even he admits it. He hates to work out. You don't see any other driver, after a hot race, looking as washed out, tired and nearly passing out as Jr does.

    Howard, did you notice that Kelley has dropped the Elledge name? She and Jimmie are divorcing. She's seen around Mooresville with a different guy, acting romantic, all the time.

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    Get Real said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 12:09 AM

    I would certainly hope that Jr was not having a relationship with his interior designer considering that she's a MARRIED woman!

    Engaged??? Yeah, right. And I got some oceanfront property to sell you.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 12:29 AM

    I also read the interior designer is married but they were friends. Who is Beth is she the brunette that was on one of the sites and wow Howard 14 years younger thats robbing the cradle doesn't seem Jr's style Jackie Snyder

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 12:38 AM

    Debbi, its true that Mark is in good shape. since being at HMS just a short time he even has Rick workin out. just alittle. But Dale isnt in the greatest shape. He does drink too much. not like he use too when he would drink a case a nite.And he does fade at the end of some races. As far as Kelley, I do know that she was seen at some of the old tracks with Dales old friend Mark that use to drive for them, but I thought she was just helping him financially.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 12:43 AM

    Kelly is getting or got divorced. I actually seen her on New Year's Eve in AC. Borgata playing blackjack she was there with friends guys and girls. Flue up in Juniors plane. She was having a lot of fun
    Jackie Snyder

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 12:44 AM

    I really doubt that any of this is true, if Dale was gettin engaged its the biggest secret in NASCAR history. I think its all rumor.Dale is not stupid and Kelley would never let him marry a girl after just goin with her a short time.

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    Betty Lynne said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 6:13 AM

    Engaged now is he?! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! Who is starting the pool on when the rumor starts that she is pregnant as well? HAHAHAAAHAHAAAAHAHAHA!!!! Louanne, Louanne, Louanne...aaaahhhh...please...and what a good "possey" member you are - stealing his thunder. Excuse me, I have to call 911 - I am now having a heartache from laughing so hard!

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    Larry Spears said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 7:25 AM

    Dale Jr. has a wonderful personality and I have pulled for him since his father had the fatal accident. I really expected Dale to do much better than he did during his first year at Hendrick Motors. I guess I was expecting to much, because I keep trying to compare him to his father. We have got to understand though that Nascar has changed some rules and started dealing out stiff penalities in the last few years for doing some of the things that Senior did on the track. Who is to say that Junior is not conducting himself even better than his father. How many times did his father receive all those "Most Favorite Driver Awards"? I get aggravated at Junior for his laid back driving style sometimes, but just can't seem to pull for anyone else. So Go and let it all hang out in 2009 and get that hard driving style and winning at any cost like your father. You may not be voted the Most Favorite Driver anymore but could just win yourself a championship.

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    Joe Knox said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 9:05 AM

    How soon we forget the first six months of the 08 season Junior was the best thing that happened to HMS, and i think he led all of the HMS drivers in points to about the 3/4 mark in the season. Junior has had a lot of pressure on him from the moment he strapped on a helmet. Just because you have the name doesn't mean you are a clone of that person. Junior has done a lot for the sport in general much in the same way that Kyle Petty has.
    Just to add a little thought to this process, what if there is another junior making his way to nascar, perhaps already in the car #3

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 9:41 AM

    Joe, the only person who will be drivin the #3 is Austin. He drove it in the Camping World East series, and will be driving it in Nationwide and the Cup. RC and Mike are bringing this kid up the right way. He is the future of RCR plus he is a good driver.

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    Pete Konduros said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 9:47 AM

    What I would like to know is everyone going to be on Jeff every week about how meny rases it has been with out a win like everyone did Dale JR.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Larry, there is nothing that Sr. did that wouldnt be accepted today by NASCAR. You act like he was some wreckless driver or something. This is Stockcar Racing not F1.If Jr. drove more like Sr. he would have a championship by now. You cant ride up by the fence all day and blow tires and expect to win a race.And if Sr. was here today, Dale would be drivin for him and he would have a championship or 2 by now.

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    Joe Knox said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Howard, I agree completely.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 9:56 AM

    Pete, Jeff has nothing to prove to anyone. He is a great 4 time Champion with 81 wins. If he has a bad year, so be it. Dale has been here now 10 years and he still has to prove himself. You have to be 100% dedicated to this sport to be a winner and not just fly to the track on Friday Qualify,Race and go home and have a beer and play video games.

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    Werner Boehmert said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    clearly there is a line drawn between Jr the person and Jr the racer...as a person...yes he's a great person...as a racer...let's all be honset about that opinion...being in the series for 10 years, he is now one of the "elder" drivers, these new kids coming in are going to take over...

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Pete, plus Jeff is only 3 years older than Dale and at 10 years in Cup he had 61 wins and 3 championships and hes only been in the sport 6 years more than Dale.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM

    Howard and all in this forum. If you are a Jr Nation fan as hundred of thousands of us are which shows because he was voted six time most popular driver.Got over a million votes second was quite a few hundred thousand short,one of the reasons he drives up the track in the cot is not set up it can't hold on the bottom. Which is why he does blow tires.His fans love an adore him for who he is the man gets alot of respect because he gives his fans access to his peronal life like no other driver does. Dale is into cimulating racing like alot of drivers which is one of the reason he likes the high line but will run on bottom if car sticks their. He serches for the best areas's to run What he does on his own time is his business. And weather his dad was here or not his Nation of fans really want him to win win win but we are very happy with his ways. He did good last year faulterd in the chase. Best he has driven since he left his dad's now defunked company thanks to step mommy. Dale does not drive like his dad my husband a big Dale Sr. fan said Jr has his own style and senior would have had so many penalities from this cot car he would have never gotten use to them. So Dale does not have to prove himself to his fans we already aprove.There is no doubt he is one hundred percent dedicated if he wasn't he would quit racing. And yes he admits himself he need to work out and get in better condition for races. But he will be fine. One win or more or none he WILL BE NUMBER ONE.So write all you want. Nation love's our reserved southern man. For who he is we have faith in him he will ge a chapionship win more races will he ever be as good as his dad NO he is not trying to be, He is just being himself and Jr. Nation loves it. Jackie Snyder

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM

    Jackie, driving style has nothin to do with Dale drivin up in the marbles all day. It has to do with him and Tony keepin up with the track conditions and the setup of the car. You cant win races when your out of the groove half the time. As far as Sr. not being able to drive the COT. I have one thing to say about that. Your CRAZY, he could drive anything on wheels.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Lisa Fowler Thank you You said it the best about Jr Nation and why we love him. Jackie Snyder

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    I do think with the tires and some of the changes in the COT car, which I've read a lot of drivers talking about that are still trying to get use to the way they drive, that is a valid point. Tires last year were an issue hopefully that won't happen again, the teams have one more year of the cot under their belt. Apparently the car was built to be safer for them but I have read it's not that easy to drive. However, Eury Jr. needs to get with Chad and figure out what he does to study for a race and then be as up on it because regardless Chad is always prepared. Jimmie gives him some feedback but that guy is an analysis machine and probably has some stuff he could help Tony with.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Howard I'm not crazy anyone that has known senior knows he would not be driving the cot car like the others they do not handle the same way.Have you ever been to a race track or is this from your TV viewing?. Yes the set up in the car is critical but Dale drvies the high line when the car is not handling most drivers will drift up the track if its not sticking on the bootom or middle cruve.And its not the track conditon it is their set up on the car that they need to work on. Jackie Snyder

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 11:34 AM

    Jackie, I have been at the race track every weekend fulltime for the last 15 years and part time since 82. if you read by post you would have read that they DONT keep up with track conditions and thats why the car goes away.There is no such thing as drivin the high line unless your Michael Waltrip!!!

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    Howard I do not doubt your knowledge of track conditions since you spend alot of time at tracks. My husband spends his weekends on a pit crew. And in the building most of the week working on the cars for the weekend. So I think I can safely say track conditions are important but if the car is not set up properly or the tires are not right they blow being on the highline is not good for that of course. But if your driving up their than you need to adjust the car to run somewhere else. Being that expert that you are I know you know that Micheal Waltrip was a good friend of Dale Sr. as his brother Darrell. And Micheal drives up their I guess its because his car is a ToY and he doesn't have the proper crew to set it up better. They have Bootie now so maybe that will change. Jackie Snyder

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    andee anderson said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 12:49 PM

    Please,Do not compare Jr's driving to Micheal Waltrip's.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    Only a person with such great wisdom would leave a stupid comment like that LMAO please Jr's driving high line like Micheal W.Driving style not even close. Andy Coleman

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    Donna W said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM

    #2 Kim Palmer - yes, I like Jr because of his driving abilities, his personality, and his attitude. It doesn't matter to me who his dad was.

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    Bernadette Motherway said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 8:06 PM

    These are some of the post pathetic postings on Dale Jr. on this site yet!

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM

    I'm new to posting but I can tell you that other than post #46, which got some confusion going, this forum was pretty tame and debating was pretty back and forth versus attacking like I've seen on some other forums I've just read and not participated in this offseason. I'm just glad Daytona is almost here!

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    Trouble in TURN 3 said:
    Feb 1, 2009 at 10:18 PM

    6 TIME MOST POPULAR DRIVER CONSECUTIVELY.GET OVER IT!

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    Kim Palmer said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 12:08 AM

    Thank you for the insight to the way ya'll feel about Jr. Very cool the passion you have for him. Thanks again for sharing your true feelings. Special thanks for the rudeness of #53 SAID. Go back and read the question and my statement....NO DISRESPECT to Jr. or his fans for that fact. Right back at ya my friend.

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    Debbi Barwood said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 12:41 AM

    Howard, you are correct in your observations. Rick Hendrick has said that Jr needs to learn how to give better information to his pit crew on the handling of his car throughout the race, and Jr agreed. He said he's not good at communicating to Tony Jr about what he needs from a car, especially once the handling of the car goes away late in races. And yes, if Sr were still alive, Jr would be driving for his daddy and I think his driving style would be very different than it is now. This season will be put up or shut up for the 88 team. But I will say that one problem with Jr is that he's too loyal to family members. I would love to see how Jr would do in Cup if he had someone like Letarte or Knauss as his crew chief.

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    teresa beachler said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 9:46 AM

    Jr. just needs to focus on racing, and not everything else. He needs to leave his friends at home on race weekends and forget about going out on Friday nights at the track. And for the people that say hes out of shape, he is. Hes like Kyle Petty after 500 laps. He needs to knock off the drinking.As far as getting married, he must keep his girl locked up 24 hrs a day.because she not been around anywhere around here.How about those Steelers, I had a great day in warm Tampa.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 11:26 AM

    Maybe having Mark Martin as a team mate will inspire Jr. to work out a little more. I think Mark is such a positive force and I read somewhere that his car and the 88 team are in the same building, maybe they will get more time to talk because I think what Dale has really been missing all these years is the guidance of his Dad.

    That one catch at the end of the Super Bowl was FANTASTIC. I'm so glad the weather was good, I'm in Jax and Florida weather can be 80 one day and 40 the next day.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 12:08 PM

    Teresa I'm glad you enjoyed the game in Tampa was glad to see that a Pa. team won Steeler Big Ben had a freat drill at end. Being a Eagle Fan though wish they could just get back there again I think they will get the job done.Were going to the Las Vegas race we have seasons seats in Dale E Terrace. Temperartures out their are running aroond 60. As for Jr. he addmitts he need to get back in shape and give more feedback on the car, asid he needs to collect more hardware so I think with his teammates and now Mark I think 2009 will be a better year for him and his crew and teammates. Jr. Nation fans for most part are very passionate and for some reason very protective of him. He does need to be himself though. That is what makes him Dale Jr. But when it comes to his job that has to take priority. Jackie Snyder

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    Teresa, it must be nice to work for a company that has a corporate jet that can get you back to work for Monday! just kidding.it was a great game. I had the Steelers by 7.

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    Todd Priest said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 12:31 PM

    Tampa was not warm. It was a bit chilly actually but better than the north I suppose.

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    Todd Priest said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 12:32 PM

    In response to number one.


    DREAM ON!!!!

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    Todd Priest said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    In response to number three.

    If Rick only hired the best in the biz, wht did he even bother with Junior? How about Mears? Here is the answer. MONEY out of Junior for sure and Mears was a favot to his son. Simple as that. Rick didn't see talent, he saw dollar sighns.

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    Todd Priest said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 12:37 PM

    #7:

    Sorry,I agree with what you said until him maybe winning a championship. Junior will never win a championship.Ever.

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    teresa beachler said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 1:03 PM

    #93, The weather was perfect for football, it was in the 60s.that is not cold in the 40s in cold!

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    Green Flag said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 4:02 PM

    To Nick and DA Said. Kiss it! You really don't think I'd advertise my name to the 'beer bottle throwing' Jr fans, do you?

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    Green Flag said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 4:13 PM

    If they were to give 'Junior Nation' an enema, they would stick it in 'said'.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 4:35 PM

    Did anyone notice when they did the after the Super Bowl activities they were calling them, I believe, Steeler Nation, or something like that. I hadn't heard that before but I hadn't followed the Steelers so thought it was funny to hear the "Nation" thing in football. I think there are some Jr. fans that are obsessed with the dude and think he almost walks on water and then there are others, hopefully like me, that think he's a normal guy who has the talent to compete in Sprint (I can almost guarantee no one on here could race those cars at 180 up against the wall and stay in one piece) and make the Chase. I think it's his dream and he needs to make some adjustments, focus and like the rest of the top 15 or so drivers - Go For It this season.

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    Todd Priest said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 4:58 PM

    Yes,I know. I live across the bay in St.Pete. It was great weather for football. It will be freezing again this week.

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    Herb Phares said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 7:49 PM

    Hey Jr Nation, He proved last year beyond a shaddow of a doubt that HE AND HIS CREW CHEIF ARE THE MOST OVERATED DRIVER AND CREW CHIEF IN NASCAR. THEY VIRTUALLY RAN NO BETTER OVERALL THAN THEY DID AT TEI. NASCAR GAVE HIM HIS ONLY WIN AT MICHIGAN AND ADMITTED A SCORING MISTAKE AGAINST BRIAN VICKERS WHO WOULD HAVE WON TAHT RACE IF PUT IN THE PROPER POSITION.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 7:55 PM

    Hey "Herb": I'd like to see the "post" where Nascar said they "gave him the Michigan race" and it should have been Vickers. Just curious because I've NEVER seen that. It would be nice to know where it did come from.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 8:00 PM

    #96 #7 In response to your statements Jr. was also a great friend with RickyH.They grew up around the race tracks.Everyone is entitled to their opinions.Mr.H. know a talent when he see one and if you can't see Jr's driving skills's than you need glasses.Get over its he is six6666 most popular driver for a reason. So suck it up because he will win a championship and more races.And no he may not ever be as good as some of the greats but he is admired by his fans for who he is.And that isn't going to change no matter what you say. Time will tell how he does. But Junior was making the big bucks before Kelly came on board get your facts strait.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 8:20 PM

    Actually Jackie, Kelley has been there every step of Dales career. Kelley negotiated Dales contract in 2002 too. She has always worked with Dale. She also worked for Srs. companythat he first started which was Sports Image. She in my book is one of the smartest women in NASCAR and controls Dales 30 million a year income.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 8:30 PM

    Howard, you seem to be in the "know" in NC. Has anyone around there seen him at WR with his interior decorator as a "couple" say last weekend? There was a report on another site and it's probably false, at least I hope it is, I just was wondering what the take was from a NC person that might be near where he is and spends his days off.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 8:32 PM

    Debby, Herb is right. In a way anyway. NASCAR did make a scoring mistake that did affect the outcome of the Michigan race. After coming out of the pits they scored Brian behind Mark and cost him a chance of winning and he finished forth.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 8:37 PM

    Thank you Howard for the reply. Please see #106 and let me know what you think. I have a son that likes Jr. and I haven't said anything to him about some of the offseason comments being made but if he coupled up with her (being married), we're gonna have a talk and I'm gonna goodwill my 8 & 88 stuff. I guess the season and if anyone is standing by him on pit road will tell but I wanted to see if any NC people might know if that relationship is real or not.

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 8:39 PM

    I dont go to Whiskey River, I have been there when it first opened up for the Grand Opening but I live all the way up by Greensboro. I dont know about any Interior Decorator, but then he is pretty private with his life. And I dont belive any of the rumors on here. When I get to Daytona Im sure it will be Dale as usual, and that hittin the Oceandeck and the clubs.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 8:43 PM

    Howard, Thank you for the comment. I'm going to continue to just go along and not say anything until there is proof, like her at a race by him for the anthem. I'm hoping it will be Dale as usual but also concentrating on racing more this year. He's got such a great chance with Hendrick, I really hopes he takes advantage of the time there.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 11:13 PM

    Howard I agree Kelly is one of the smartest women in Nascar I met her last May and talked to her New Years Eve in AC.I know she had been with Sports Image Jr had said she took a big pay cut to come work for him so he doubled her salary which she totally deserves.I thought before 2002 Sr. controlled most of his finances. I know he didn't have a contract until 2002. Thanks to Kelly. As for the Michigan I still say a win is a win of course would have loved to see him flying across the finsh line. And lets not forget Richmond when Hamlin came out to a dead stop and stopped the race because Dale had 2 laps to go and Kyle his teamate would have never caught him so. That ended that which would have be a boneafied win. But now their is 2009. Only time will tell.I hope it will all be good. As for Wiskey River one of my friends goes their sometimes Friday or Saturday she works at the Arena. She told me Dale was down their with friends in his #1 booth and from what she could see their was a women with him and seem to be having alot of fun. So if its the interior designer don't know but we shall see. ?? If B Vickers was scored wrong coming out of the pits I still don't get how that position would have caust him that race. Did he run out of fuel also? Because wasn't Casey coasting right behind Dale at the end. Can't remember

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    Howard Englishman said:
    Feb 2, 2009 at 11:44 PM

    Well, Im sure there was women sitting at his table. usually when guys are in bars they have women around. But that does not mean they are together, let alone getting married. When we get to Daytona everyone hits the clubs and Dale likes to go to Miami and party. there are always girls around.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 12:10 AM

    Yeah, I think having seen an article on Nascar.com where he gave himself a "c" for last year's effort, I thought, why in the world would you sabatoge yourself and get some heavy relationship thing going with a just divorced interior decorator right before the season starts. I mean, come on, the guy so does not need that distraction. Having fun at a bar is cool and a good way to blow off steam. I read on something called the "pitboard" that Martha Earnhardt broke her leg above the knee last Thursday. Hopefully, he'll get to spend time with her before Daytona. She'll be in rehab for a while.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 12:27 AM

    Well Howard keep us posted if you can on whats going on in Daytona. Just booked Marinsville in March and got Las Vegas I know he like's to party their. And play poker.#113 Hope Martha E. will be ok didn't hear that. Debby may I ask what site you were on that you read about this interior d. And Howard have a blast in Daytona.Have fun in the clubs.And of course the race's.And as for the women in his booth she say's she was a brunette.I hope he is just having fun. But I think he is also looking for that special someone.Just hope its not a divorced interior decorator.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 12:27 AM

    Well Howard keep us posted if you can on whats going on in Daytona. Just booked Marinsville in March and got Las Vegas I know he like's to party their. And play poker.#113 Hope Martha E. will be ok didn't hear that. Debby may I ask what site you were on that you read about this interior d. And Howard have a blast in Daytona.Have fun in the clubs.And of course the race's.And as for the women in his booth she say's she was a brunette.I hope he is just having fun. But I think he is also looking for that special someone.Just hope its not a divorced interior decorator.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 12:39 AM

    http://www.talk-sports.net/ I think is where I was. It came up a few weeks ago on the site and then died, then came back up again. The recently divorced decorator is not brunette so that makes me hopeful he'll be a in a good mood for Daytona and is back to normal just having light dating during the season. Everyone wants someone special, but I bet for Jr. it will be a while before he finds her and settles enough into a relationship where he trusts enough. You are lucky going to the tracks, they are out of my budget so I look forward to seeing your comments. I like this site because people give their names and that to me puts more on the line, the other site does not do that and I've been warned as a new poster on the Nascar world on some sites to avoid. I appreciate everyone's responses to me. Take care.

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    Betty Lynne said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Debby Hall, stop worrying about bringing your stuff to Goodwill. Don't believe everything you read. But a reliable source has comfirmed once again, he is with No One! There is no girlfriend not even the "married one" everybody likes to think he dropped all his morals and pickup with.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 12:12 PM

    Debby I'll be posting my pictures that I get at the tracks keep checking I will give you my website do you go on infield parking that is one of Dale's websites that he started up.Don't worry about the girls I'm sure he has had fun with them this off season he is a man however it will take someone pretty special if you read Marty S.article on Dale last year you will know he wants someone as he says can read him like a book and abring home to mamma and kelly girl. I don't think he will find that one in the bars. Thanks for that website

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    teresa beachler said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Debby, that site is just a bunch of people like on here just posting rumors and lies. Jr. hangs out with lots of girls and the way hes goin hell never settle down.

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    teresa beachler said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM

    And to Louanne, just for your info, anyone thats says they are in Jrs. possee well they are delusional. It was Jrs. name for his pals back when he had the Club E. in his basement. Him and Chris made up that name and if you talked to someone that said that they are not one of Jrs. friends I can assure you that. Just more lies and rumors.

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 1:00 PM

    Debby go on ESPN The Magazine and read the article on Dale from Marty Smith I think you'll like it. Some people like to post anything thats true on any website your on.However most people that folow him go to races and his websites knows that only the personal stuff he wants gets posted, unless it is coming from the media. Teresa B do you live in NC.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 3:13 PM

    Thanks you for the advice and I will track down that article. I agree, the web is new to me as is following Nascar but I wanted to have something to share with my kid who is a young teen (it's hard to get them to settle to want to watch anything with their Mom) so, Nascar became our thing. He has a leather #8 jacket he was so proud of getting from his grandparents years ago for Xmas then, turns out he couldn't wear it to school cause of the beer affiliation :) Anyway, I really do appreciate your comments and I will follow alot on Nascar.com, if you can think of other places, like that Infield one, I'll do that too. Any site information for me to understand the sport and try to talk to my son with, is greatly appreciated.

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    Betty Lynne said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 3:45 PM

    Debby, the pitstop is a great website. Lots of info and a message board were they don't allow gossip about his personal life. Click on "The Pit Board" and then "enter". If you want to join the board the join info is along the top of that page. I say this because I couldn't find it and would have loved to have someone tell me where it was :) http://www.dalejrpitstop.com/

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 6:11 PM

    Debby let me know if you read that article.Also Nascar with your son is a good way to enjoy racing together if he is on the web Nascar.com is good plus Dale's official website and infield I think is more for you. The pitstop is good also. Most of the other websites are trash talk. On Dales he puts up pictures and blogs a little he also does on infield. Jr Nation also has alot but is not a free site. Good luck.Enjoy Dale this year and Nascar hoping it will be a good year

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 6:53 PM

    Thank you for the information. I went ahead and sent an email somewhere to join the Pit Stop board because when I tried to type a note to Dale's grandmother saying she'd be in my prayers, it said something about having to be a member so I chose a user name/password and am waiting from the owners of the site to see if it's chosen already. I'm very happy to hear you like that one. I've been out on Dale's website and also Nascar.com but that has been it so far and it's mostly reading but once racing starts, it will be a different experience and probably not so much talking about alot of things but the race that just happened. I appreciate the advice and am hoping Dale has a really good year too.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 7:28 PM

    To Jackie, thank you for the advice on reading the ESPN magazine that was a very good article (I read the one with him on the cover from I think 5/08). Also, I would enjoy seeing your pictures on your website. I saw something on a decent website today that one of the tracks is offering $25.00 tickets. I'm in Florida so Daytona and probably more like the Pepsi 400 would be the one I'd look to safe up to take Marty too. As a single parent, crowds intimidate me at times, Monster Trucks comes to mind, but everyone on here seems so nice. I'm hoping once I do go to the July race with my son that he will get a kick out of it and we'll both feel right at home. Take care Debby

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 9:03 PM

    Debby The article of Dale is called ALL Grown Up Its on ESPN The Magazine I hope you get to go to a race I know your son will love it they are so loud and exciting. If you sign up for Infield Parking let me know you can see my pictures I have of all the tracks we go to. I'm in Pa.usually six months a year than a couple in NC. And we spend time in the west in AZ and LasVegas.We have a camper so not to bad home away from home. Was a killer last year with gas.But we only take it on east coast.I think this year tickets will come down in price if you wait closer to the race because the tracks are not sell outs.I think you read the one I talked about him on the rocking chair.I wish the best for you this year being a single mother is rough I was a single mom for four years until I got remmaried. Know what its like Take care.Let me know when you join infield we can talk more.And its more private

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    Jackie Snyder said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 9:05 PM

    Debby on pitstop I am Jackie88Pa when you here back from them

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    Wolverine Fan said:
    Feb 3, 2009 at 9:05 PM

    Dale stated in an interview, he was single and has been for sometime. Let's take the money out of the equation. He can do what he wants when he wants. The regular guy/girl must find someone they connect mentally. Physically, sure, but one must be able to satisfy intellectually. He attracts all types of girls, name, fame, and wealth, makes it easier. Just because he is Dale Jr. does not guarantee success. I do not have millions and I am totally happy being single. Marriage is not as the days of parents. To stand before God and promise til death do us part, is now a joke. I applaud him for not entering a relationship unsure and a few months or few years, it ends in divorce.

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    Debby Hall said:
    Feb 6, 2009 at 12:06 PM

    Hi Jackie, I'm FLLADY1018 on pit board now. I love reading things on that site. There is a lot of information about racing and discussion which is what I was looking to participate in while I was watching the season with my son. Take care, Debby

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