Kenny Bruce: Chase For The Sprint Cup field beginning to take shape

By Kenny Bruce - Assistant Managing Editor
Monday, July 06, 2009
Stewart-Haas Racing's Tony Stewart (left) and his crew chief Darian Grubb appear poised to make the Chase For The Sprint Cup. (Jerry Markland / Getty Images for NASCAR)

Stewart-Haas Racing's Tony Stewart (left) and his crew chief Darian Grubb appear poised to make the Chase For The Sprint Cup.

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COMMENTARY

The top 10 in the point standings in NASCAR’s Sprint Cup Series remained unchanged, despite the mayhem of Daytona, and I don’t know about you, but I don’t expect a lot of movement during these next eight races.

It might be quiet – although no one is immune to trouble on the track – for those 10 teams, but for the groups clinging to 11th through 15th or so, time is growing short.

A year ago, only one change occurred in the top 12 between the second Daytona race and the cutoff event at Richmond – Kasey Kahne fell out of the top 12 and Kevin Harvick raced his way into the Chase. A major shakeup in the standings isn’t out of the question, but it becomes less and less likely with each passing race.

Which means drivers such as Juan Pablo Montoya (11th) and Kahne (12th) won’t be exhaling any time soon. Not with Mark Martin, David Reutimann and Jeff Burton (13th, 14th and 15th, respectively) squarely in their rearview mirrors. The latter three have spent time inside the top 12 this year, and it’s safe to say they’ll likely make it interesting before the series returns Richmond for a final time.

Burton was enjoying perhaps one of his best runs of the season at Daytona when trouble – in the form of a flat tire – sent his Richard
Childress Racing Chevrolet to pit road on lap 130 - just after Burton had taken the lead on three laps earlier.

“But we were able to get our lap back and had a fast enough car to get some spots,” Burton said afterwards.

That he was caught up in the last-lap incident was unfortunate, but Burton says it wasn’t surprising given the fact that there was a late,
double-file restart which crowded the cars back together.

Still, he noted, “We did cross the finish line.”

The RCR team, which finished 16th, is 105 points out of the Chase heading to this weekend’s race at Chicagoland Speedway.

• Regan Smith finished 12th at Daytona, and for what it’s worth, that was tops among teams running a partial schedule this year. It was just the 10th start of the year for the Furniture Row Racing team.

Smith may be just 38th in points, but he’s ahead of at least two others who have twice as many starts this season. The team’s next stop will be Indianapolis and the Allstate 400 at the Brickyard.

• NASCAR’s Cup series has now seen its last two restrictor-plate races finish with multicar accidents. Saturday’s melee, fortunately, didn’t result in any injuries, but it still raised questions regarding the safety and sanity of plate racing.

No, I don’t have any answers. Drivers aren’t doing anything any differently than they do at other tracks, yet the high speeds at Daytona and Talladega create much more dangerous situations.

So is the answer to slow the cars down? Outlaw blocking, and then go crazy trying to police it?

Or simply accept the fact that such incidents are likely going to continue to occur?

The next restrictor-plate race is scheduled for Nov. 1 at Talladega Superspeedway. Given Saturday night’s wild finish, ticket sales should be brisk.

Mentioned Drivers: Tony Stewart

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  1. 1
    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 8:47 AM

    Take the restrictor plates off and get rid of the luckey dog rule. The faster cars will work thier way thru traffic and pass the slower cars. Thats racing. Thats how you win a race. Yep, speeds will reach 230-240 mph. That seperates the men from the boys. It moves our superspeedway races into world class racing events. Gaining the respect our drivers deserve as the best drivers in the world today. And Showing the world Nascar is the best of the best. Oh yeah. The luckey dog rule? Well that one just sucks.

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 9:04 AM

    Oh... forgot my point. Getting rid off the restrictor plates will let them race under normal conditions and let them get away from each other. Bump drafting the way they do it now won't play a role and the way they need to be all bunched up to get any speed out of thier cars won't come into play and the "big one" won't have the makings to happen. Removing the restictor plates will actually be safer along with better racing. The luckey dog rule? It still just sucks.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 9:22 AM

    First of all, Taking the plates off wont allow a 3800 lb car which was the Dodge to reach the speeds you just stated. Back without the plates the engines produced around 750 bhp. Now the cars produce around 850 bhp. The fastest they have tested without the plates was an obtained speed of around 218 mph. The main thing is the safety of the fans and that is why we have the plate races. You have to keep the cars inside the fence.

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    Look at the speeds they are reaching at Indy not using the restictor plate. Without the cars running bunched up the way they do now with the faster cars out running the slower cars the safty of the fans is increased considerably by not having conditions of the race with the cars running the way they do now to have the "Big Wreck" or several big wrecks waiting to happen. All the cars have a minimum wieght they have to make to be legal no matter what it's "make" is. There have been more fans hurt since the restrictor plate rule was introduced (because of the Bobby Allison wreck) than before. The restrictor plate was not put on the cars for the saftey of the fans but the drivers. Technolegy has moved past the restrictor plate. Nascar needs to address the issue.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 3:11 PM

    #4, You are dead wrong. In 1987 when Bobby lost control of his racecar and wrecked down the front stretch at Talladega. His car became airborne and spun into the catch fence in front of the crowd in the stands. There was only a little chain link fence that prevented Bobby's car from getting into the grandstand and killing hundreds of spectators that day.
    Beginning with the Daytona 500 in 1988 NASCAR mandated the use of restrictor plates in an attempt to slow the cars down to improve safety for the fans.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 3:13 PM

    Plus you cant compare Flat old Indy to the high banks of Talladega and Daytona. Two totalally different animals

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    jbbigrod said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 4:22 PM

    AND don't forget the cars will be all bunched up several times during restarts, so they won't be spread out. These cars are not DESIGNED to go over 200 mph. They are no longer 3550 pound cars at that speed, but rather more like air planes or worse, gliders without controls. You saw what happened to Carl at Talledega. Could have happend to Busch Saturday, but fortunately didn't. - - - Busch was VERY fortunate all three times. Especially when his teammate Logano hit him. That is the one that could have been a fatal blow if done slightly different. IF you want to keep the T and D on the list of tracks for Cup to run at, flatten the corners so the speeds go down. And/or mandate running 250 Cu. In engines.

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    bthompson133 said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 6:01 PM

    handling will dictate speed, they already lift at daytona. get rid of the plates and restrict the gear ratios a bit. give the drivers back the control they need

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    Werner said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 7:48 PM

    #1...easy for you to say go out and run at 230-240...those cars are unstable at 180...that's all we need...43 cars flying around the trak..Carl almost went over the fence at 180...you want that car in your lap...how about smaller motors and change the rear end gear?...then dump the plate...

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 8:28 PM

    Werner not exacly 43 cars racing. Unless you are counting Dave Blaney drive and park. I was amazed he actually ran two laps before picking up his pay check.

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 8:34 PM

    Werner changing the rear gears will only produce higher RPM's which will cause motors to fail. Either less banking or smaller engines.

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 9:52 PM

    No one was hurt. That catch fence is not nor ever was a chain link fence. It's a heavey metal fence with three stands of 3 inch cable that runs with it the entire length of the granstands and also the entire length of the stands on the backstretch. It also caught Neal Bonnet and kept him inside the track. They both "lost control" as you say because the arrow dynamics of the cars of that era allowed air to get under the cars and lift them and they would roll over in the air in the dog leg. (Nascar has addressed that problem, first with the roof flaps then the spliter and the wing.) It was a fairly common thing to happen at Daytona and Talladega both. The fence you see there now except for repairs is the same catch fence that caught Bobby Allison. It wasn't the cars, it was flying parts that hurt the people at Talladega. If you take the restictor plates off the cars at the superspeedways they will run faster than Indy. Atlanta is the fastest track Nascar races on anyway. Are you sure you've been to the races at Daytona? I'm not going to carry on a spirited conversation with someone that doesn't use facts to escalate his side of the conversation.

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM

    No one was hurt. That catch fence is not nor ever was a chain link fence. It's a heavey metal fence with three stands of 3 inch cable that runs with it the entire length of the granstands and also the entire length of the stands on the backstretch. It also caught Neal Bonnet and kept him inside the track. They both "lost control" as you say because the arrow dynamics of the cars of that era allowed air to get under the cars and lift them and they would roll over in the air in the dog leg. (Nascar has addressed that problem, first with the roof flaps then the spliter and the wing.) It was a fairly common thing to happen at Daytona and Talladega both. The fence you see there now except for repairs is the same catch fence that caught Bobby Allison. It wasn't the cars, it was flying parts that hurt the people at Talladega. If you take the restictor plates off the cars at the superspeedways they will run faster than Indy. Atlanta is the fastest track Nascar races on anyway. Are you sure you've been to the races at Daytona? I'm not going to carry on a spirited conversation with someone that doesn't use facts to escalate his side of the conversation.

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 10:01 PM

    No one was hurt. That catch fence is not nor ever was a chain link fence. It's a heavey metal fence with three stands of 3 inch cable that runs with it the entire length of the granstands and also the entire length of the stands on the backstretch. It also caught Neal Bonnet and kept him inside the track. They both "lost control" as you say because the arrow dynamics of the cars of that era allowed air to get under the cars and lift them and they would roll over in the air in the dog leg. (Nascar has addressed that problem, first with the roof flaps then the spliter and the wing.) It was a fairly common thing to happen at Daytona and Talladega both. The fence you see there now except for repairs is the same catch fence that caught Bobby Allison. It wasn't the cars, it was flying parts that hurt the people at Talladega. If you take the restictor plates off the cars at the superspeedways they will run faster than Indy. Atlanta is the fastest track Nascar races on anyway. Are you sure you've been to the races at Daytona? I'm not going to carry on a spirited conversation with someone that doesn't use facts to escalate his side of the conversation.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 10:03 PM

    I hate to tell you but the fence that is there is not the fence that was there in 87. That fence hs been replaced twice since then. Once after Bobbys crash and another when the speedway was just repaved. The fence had to be replaced when the speedway was paved to hold the pavers on the track from the outside. Back in 87 it was still double high 10 foot chain link. You better learn your history .

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 10:07 PM

    You can see the 20 ft high chain link fence on this footage.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wySxP-tWZQU

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 11:24 PM

    Prove what your saying and prove you work as a photographer that has a pass to take photographs of Nascar races. That catch fence was never a chain link fence. No one would put that up and expect it to be safe. I lived in Daytona Beach and Holly Hill Florida from 1980 until 1989. There are pictures of drivers like Lee Petty,Buck Baker,"Fire Ball" Roberts and many more from the tracks beginning standing in front of that fence in the old magazines or in the ones now with stories from old days in them. Why did you stop talking about the cars, tracks and speeds? Whats your deal?

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 11:24 PM

    Prove what your saying and prove you work as a photographer that has a pass to take photographs of Nascar races. That catch fence was never a chain link fence. No one would put that up and expect it to be safe. I lived in Daytona Beach and Holly Hill Florida from 1980 until 1989. There are pictures of drivers like Lee Petty,Buck Baker,"Fire Ball" Roberts and many more from the tracks beginning standing in front of that fence in the old magazines or in the ones now with stories from old days in them. Why did you stop talking about the cars, tracks and speeds? Whats your deal?

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 11:25 PM

    A quote from Bruton Smith......Smith believes the fences should be made of welding wire and not chain link. Talladega’s fencing is a mix of chain link and steel cabling.

    “You need a welding-wire [fence], which is 10 times [stronger than] a chain-link fence is,” Smith said. “A chain-link fence, you might think it’s strong, but it’s not. … You can put a lot of cable, but cable is not necessarily the answer to what we’re after. You have to do your homework and be sure that you’ve got the tensile strength in those cables.”
    Talladega needs to replace the chain link fence and replace it with high tesile fence.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 11:29 PM

    I don't have to prove anything. I am at the races every week and can be found at any given time by stopping at the Toyota Midway. And I know Talladega well since I have been taking pictures there for 15 years.I have my own room in the Hall of Fame with all My Sr. pictures in there. Go check out the name on them and see for yourself.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 6, 2009 at 11:31 PM

    You crack me up with your looking at magazines. Another armchair race fan.

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 12:11 AM

    I thought we were talking about DAYTONA. How did YOU get to Talladega? And where did you get the quote by Bruton Smith from? Not a magazine I wouldn't think. Since the France family owns both Daytona and Talladega. Why would Talladega be chain link and Daytona not? I'm sure there's plenty of pictures of Talladega also.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 12:28 AM

    No, your comment #14 was talking about Bobby and bobby wrecked at talladega.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 12:30 AM

    Bruton said that after Carls wreck at Talladega.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 12:42 AM

    Daytonas fence has been updated several times where as Talladega's fence when years before anything was done to it. The fence at Talladega is now 14 feet high. And the opening in the fence are very small but big enough for fans to watch the race.

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 8:46 AM

    Bobby Allisons wreck was at Daytona. Read Stock Car Racing's article covering the the race in 1987. Davey Allison(Bobbys son) wrecked his hilicopter at Talladega several years later. He died from the injuries and Red Farmer recieved minor injuries from the crash. Your juumping around in this conversation to try and gain a foot hold to carry it on. The people at the speedway that deals with photographers said they wouldn't have any way of knowing who you are by your screen name but that you don't sound like anyone they know claiming to have a room full of pictures. I worked part time at the track during the time I lived in Florida (during the times the track was open)in spectator relations. Helping people to get around the track and find the different fan club events.My oldest son lives there now. You gave me a good excuse to call my daughter-in-law and talk to her this morning. She's a third generation full time employee at the speedway.(yes she is responsible for Talladega also) I'm just a Tony Stewart fan that likes to get on here and talk about my favorite driver. SMOKE "THE BEST RACE CAR DRIVER EVER" STEWART. All this bickering with you is wearing me out. This is a dead-end conversation/argument that is going no where. I'm going to take my daughter-in-laws advice and stop acting like I don't have a life again, go get on my Harley-Davidson and ride it until I find a girl half my age and take her for a ride. I LOVE MY DAUGHTER-IN-LAW!!

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    tabeachler said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 11:41 AM

    .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wySxP-tWZQU

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    tabeachler said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 11:41 AM

    .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wySxP-tWZQU

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    tabeachler said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    boudruxbone, Do you see that link??? click on it. Everyone knows that Bobby Allison wrecked in Talledega in 1987. NOT DAYTONA!!!

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 7, 2009 at 5:59 PM

    #26, Bobby's wreck was at talladega not Daytona. You might have worked for Americrown or whoever you might know might have worked for them but they have nothing to do with Media credentials for NASCAR. And The Hall of Fame in Talladega was controlled by the State before ISC took it over.

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    Jul 7, 2009 at 8:26 PM

    Yeah dude. I made a mistake. That wreck was at Talladega. I watched the you tube video. I wouldn't want anyone to think I won't admit when I'm wrong, or that I would completely dance around an issue to duck out of something. I don't know what all this has to do with restictor plates and restictor plate racing. Which was what my post was about that started me on this insane journey with you. I saw your picture on the Nascar community web-site where you post pictures like everyone else. Some of them I liked. Have you ever given any thought that you might obbsessed with yourself? I usually can make the Daytona 500 and sometimes one of the Talladega races and Bristol and Texas. Maybe I'll stop by and say,HEY! at Daytona next year and check out your pictures in your room at the Toyata midway. See ya'.

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