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Juan Pablo Montoya's time disallowed; Jimmie Johnson inherits pole
By Kenny Bruce - Assistant Managing Editor
Friday, September 26, 2008
Juan Pablo Montoya
David Griffin
NASCAR Scene
KANSAS CITY, Kan. – Juan Pablo Montoya’s pole-winning run for Sunday's Camping World RV 400 was too good to be true.
Montoya, who put the Chip Ganassi Racing No. 42 Dodge on the pole during Friday’s qualifying with a lap of 172.150 mph, instead will start from the 42nd spot Sunday after officials found the car’s rear shocks exceeded the maximum gas pressure allowed during post-qualifying inspection.
As a result, Jimmie Johnson, second fastest in qualifying, will start on the pole in the Hendrick Motorsports No. 48 Chevrolet.
Teams are required to run between a minimum of 25 pounds of nitrogen gas pressure and a maximum of 75 pounds in the rear shocks, according to John Darby, NASCAR Sprint Cup Series director.
The gas, he said, helps control foaming of the shock oil and “keep the oil pressure steady on both sides of the shock piston.” There have been instances, he said, when “teams have used excessive gas pressures and made the shock function outside of what a normal shock absorber is supposed to do.
“If you remember Dover a couple of years ago, we had an issue with some shocks on the back of a car that were constructed to actually jack the car up and that’s when we added language to the shock-absorber rules, specifically the rear shocks, and put the gas pressures in place with some other rules on how they compress and rebound and some things," Darby said.
Darby would only say that the pressures, which were measured after qualifying was completed, exceeded the 75-pound maximum.
Brian Pattie, crew chief of the No. 42 team, said the shock pressures measured 85 pounds.
“If 10 [additional] pounds is making us win races, I’d hate to know what Jimmie’s running,” Pattie said of the No. 48 team. “We run the same shocks every week, we set [the pressures] every week. We were just above everybody else, I guess. They checked multiple cars [and] we were the car that was wrong. I checked them myself and the ambient temperature was within a couple of degrees and it was off by a little bit. A rule is a rule.”
Pattie said he had no alternative but to accept the penalty.
“It kind of sucks because we have worked really hard the last two or three months on our program to run well at the mile-and-a-half [tracks],” he said. “The shocks haven’t even been worked on since I started here.
“It’s just very, very frustrating that we bust our tails week in and week out, go to the test [Sept. 23-24 at Lowe’s Motor Speedway] and run really good, come here and apply the same stuff on the car, change some more stuff in the tech line, qualify on the pole, and get it taken away 10 minutes later. So yeah, it’s difficult.
“My ... guys were switching everything over from what we do from qualifying to race [setups] ... Darby came and got me, said ‘Hey, we need to talk.’ End of story.”
Darby said because the penalty had already been imposed, it was unlikely that further penalties would be forthcoming.
“If you violate the NASCAR rulebook in qualifying, you gained whatever your [qualifying position] is on the scoreboard at the end of the day,” he said.
“Typically what we do is remove what you’ve gained and call it good. And I don’t expect to do anything different in this scenario.”
In the revised lineup, Johnson starts on the pole with Dale Earnhardt Inc.’s Mark Martin on the outside of Row 1.
Chase driver Matt Kenseth (Roush Fenway Racing) is third, with Elliott Sadler (Gillett Evernham Motorsports) fourth and Martin Truex Jr. (DEI) fifth. Sixth through 10th are all non-Chase drivers: Paul Menard (DEI), Bill Elliott (Wood Brothers Racing), Kasey Kahne (Gillett Evernham), Brian Vickers (Red Bull Racing) and Casey Mears (Hendrick).
Elliott was the fastest of the drivers needing to make the race via qualifying. Others to make the race through qualifying were Patrick Carpentier (Gillett Evernham), Marcos Ambrose (JTG Daugherty Racing), Kyle Petty (Petty Enterprises), Sam Hornish Jr. (Penske Racing), Tony Raines (Haas CNC Racing), Joey Logano (Hall of Fame Racing) and Joe Nemechek (Furniture Row Racing).
Failing to qualify were Michael McDowell (Michael Waltrip Racing) and Johnny Sauter (EM Motorsports).
2009 Sprint Cup Race for the Chase Standings
Driver Standings after the AMP Energy 500
| 1 | Jimmie Johnson | 6248 |
| 2 | Mark Martin | -184 |
| 3 | Jeff Gordon | -192 |
| 4 | Juan Pablo Montoya | -239 |
| 5 | Tony Stewart | -279 |
| 6 | Kurt Busch | -312 |
| 7 | Greg Biffle | -340 |
| 8 | Ryan Newman | -402 |
| 9 | Kasey Kahne | -414 |
| 10 | Carl Edwards | -437 |
| 11 | Denny Hamlin | -448 |
| 12 | Brian Vickers | -556 |
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Scooter said:
Sep 26, 2008 at 7:08 PMOk so the gas pressure in the shock exceded 75 pounds. I want to know how much? Are we talking a pound or are we talking 5-10 pounds or more? I know, I know what all of you will say a pound is enough for it not to count. 1 pound over is still 1 pound over. OK that's true but Is there some leeway on this subject? Hey I can't stand Montoya and don't care if he goes to the back but, If this was my driver I would care and so I will play devil's advocate here.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPamela Johnson said:
Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PMThe article says the guy from the 42 team said it was at 85.
Report as AbuseObviously I am thrilled to see Jimmie awarded the pole, but even though I don't like Juan but it does stink for him.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRichard Clower said:
Sep 26, 2008 at 10:12 PMI don't understand, they pass a pre-qualifying test, then set on pit road to wait for qualifying. The cars are being monitored so no one can mess with them.
Report as AbuseHow can this happen?
I just feel bad for Juan, he is the teammate of my driver so I pull for him to have success
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» Confirm Abuse ReportLynda Heinrich said:
Sep 27, 2008 at 3:37 AMI understand that the rules are the rules. But I as a long time fan also understand that NASCAR has an unspoken flexibility that most sports can't and DON'T have. Isn't it amazing how Jimmy Johnson always comes out smelling like a rose? If it had been Johnson's car to be found AFTER qualifying with this exact situation would he have been sent to the back of the pack?
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbeth emerson said:
Sep 27, 2008 at 4:32 AMTo begin with Montoyas car was 10 lbs over the allowed limit. So he has to start at the back of the field so what. At least there will be no other penalties.
Report as AbuseAs far as Jimmy goes he earned the pole by running second fastest. They pick so many cars after each qualifing to check they happen to get Montoyas car. They do it to everyone. Stop blaming Jimmy for what happened.you all knoe that every time Chad has been caught there have been stiff penalities so what happened to Juan is there own fault dont try and cheat and if you do dont get caught.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJoshua Rainier said:
Sep 27, 2008 at 8:19 AMThis has nothing to do with Johnson and it was very unprofessional for Brian Pattie to question the setup on the 48 team. This looks like jealousy to me. The 48 can do it within the rules while the 42 has to break the rules to win a pole. Pattie needs to grow up and accept the fact that he broke the rules.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportScott Baker said:
Sep 27, 2008 at 2:25 PMThat's a shame for JPM. I'm certainly not a fan of his, however, I too would like to know the 48's. I'm neutral on both the 48 and 42, however, if you're going to award the pole to the next guy, he should be scrutinized just as much. Wonder what the 48 shocks registered? Just a thought.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAndrew Briscoe said:
Sep 27, 2008 at 4:27 PMReally sad that the guy who should be monitoring what happens (Pattie) got caught cheating and then has to question what another team is doing. That's really mature of him.
Report as AbuseSad for Montoya, too, but then again, this really is indicative of how his season has been.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbill thompson said:
Sep 27, 2008 at 4:41 PMcheaters get caught , how sad. maybe they should follow the rules! nascar is watching things alot closer now that the chase is on. maybe jpm won't wreck as many cars from the back!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportdel brown said:
Sep 27, 2008 at 7:51 PMRichard Clower has a good question - how do things like this happen? Isn't the pre-qual check supposed to catch these things? Yet all too often a qual or post race check finds things wrong. Granted the N2 pressure rises as the shock works but that affects all N2 shocks. So does NASCAR allow a cool down period before checking the pressure? Far as I know the inspectors allow cool down before checking height - that lets the shocks ti cool and the car to settle after a race. Once again NASCAR's procedures is open to questions. Frankly I am about as far from being a JPM as it's possible to be but still ....
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» Confirm Abuse Reportmike simpson said:
Sep 28, 2008 at 10:44 AMWhy is it right for some teams to have a different thing wrong and just get their hand slaped (48) and others have to go to the back. does any body remember when the 48 car didn't pass POST RACE and stil got the win, this was for the pole not the win and came out on top of this.
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