Jeff Owens: Media pressure will always be there for Junior Nation

By Jeff Owens - Executive Editor
Saturday, July 11, 2009
Hendrick Motorsports driver Dale Earnhardt Jr. and his former crew chief Tony Eury Jr. talk earlier this season at Daytona International Speedway. (David Griffin / NASCAR Scene)

Hendrick Motorsports driver Dale Earnhardt Jr. and his former crew chief Tony Eury Jr. talk earlier this season at Daytona International Speedway.

David Griffin
NASCAR Scene

COMMENTARY

It has been an interesting weekend for Dale Earnhardt Jr., his Hendrick Motorsports team and the tribe known as Junior Nation.

But, then again, every weekend is interesting for Earnhardt Jr. and his camp. That’s why he’s NASCAR’s most popular driver and most intriguing star and why there is a so-called Junior Nation. What other NASCAR driver has a following big enough to be classified as a nation?

Earnhardt Jr.’s trials and tribulations have been well documented this season, culminating with crew chief and cousin Tony Eury Jr.’s departure from the team last month.

Junior is trying to adjust to new crew chief Lance McGrew and desperately hoping to turn things around with perhaps a more low-key
approach.

But nothing is ever low-key around Junior, who walks daily in the shadow of his famous father and the glaring spotlight that goes with that legacy.

That is unfortunately part of the enormous challenge of being the son of one of NASCAR’s greatest drivers. (For more on the challenge of drivers following in the footsteps of their famous fathers, see Mike Hembree’s cover story in next week’s issue of NASCAR Scene.)

The ongoing saga of Earnhardt Jr.’s continued struggles heated up again this weekend when Eury Jr. returned to the track as crew chief for Brad Keselowski’s part-time Hendrick team.

The media, of course, was salivating at the opportunity to get at Eury Jr., who has been hidden and quiet since his release from Junior’s team. The obvious question for him was, what went wrong this season, leading to yet another year of struggles and prompting the dramatic break-up?

Eury Jr.’s theory?

It’s mostly the media’s fault.

Eury Jr. believes things went sour from the very beginning of the season because the media jumped on Junior for missing his pit stall during the Daytona 500 and then wouldn’t let up.

Every week it continued to pile on, criticizing Junior and his team for every misstep and leading the team into an even greater funk.

“You guys [in the media] put so much pressure on him after Daytona that Dale Jr. just basically had had enough,” Eury Jr. said. “… We went to California and we blew up, so there’s two negative weeks, and you guys were all over him, and it just brought him down.”

At first, Eury Jr.’s comments seem downright ridiculous, and Earnhardt Jr. doesn’t back him up, saying, “I don’t think anything that happens outside the car affects performance.”

It’s almost always a cop-out for competitors to blame the media for poor performance. If they allow outside media pressure and criticism
to get to them, then there is a problem somewhere with focus and concentration. Professional athletes compete in the spotlight, and they must be able to perform on that type of stage, or they don’t belong there.

Plus, the media, in most cases, is just doing its job, providing fans the coverage they want and expect about their favorite teams and athletes. Besides, without the media, the direct link between competitors and fans, they wouldn’t even have the opportunity to compete.

So Eury Jr.’s comments struck me initially as immature, unprofessional and a cop-out.

But, it goes deeper than that.

On another level, he is somewhat right.

There is no driver and no team in NASCAR who face the media scrutiny and pressure that Dale Earnhardt Jr. does.

As the son of a seven-time champion, a legend of the sport and an American sports icon, he has faced that challenge his whole career.

The pressure has been so intense and the expectations so high that they have been almost impossible to deal with and live up to.

Then there is the added pressure of being the sport’s most popular driver. He has a larger fan base than any other driver, and the media has a responsibility to keep those fans informed and to analyze, and even at times criticize, his every move. It’s what his fans deserve and expect.

Such media exposure has also paid off handsomely for Earnhardt Jr. Because of his incredible popularity, he sells more souvenirs and attracts more sponsors and endorsements than almost every driver, even when he is struggling on the track. He has made millions of dollars off his popularity and the exposure provided by the media.

Fortunately, he understands and accepts this. He knows the microscope under which he lives is the price he pays for his fame and all the fortunes that come with it.

“That’s just the way it is, that’s part of being the most popular driver in the sport,” he says.

But, still, it doesn’t make his job any easier or lessen the enormous pressure on him. He is challenged with trying to live up to his father’s huge legacy and the enormous expectations of his fans and doing it in the glaring media spotlight that chronicles and analyzes his every move.

That is practically an impossible task, and every year he struggles it just gets harder and harder.

Eury Jr. is right to say that Junior would probably perform much better if the media and fans would just back off and leave him alone, taking some of the pressure off.

But, unfortunately, that’s not going to happen. It’s unrealistic to expect that and unfair to even demand it.

The intense interest that fans and the media have in following Earnhardt Jr. comes with the territory. In a sense, it, too, is part of his
legacy and part of being the son of a famous champion, one who not only performed but excelled in a similar – though not quite as bright – spotlight. (Earnhardt, in fact, excelled as much at dodging the media as he did at dealing with it.)

As long as Earnhardt Jr. is racing, as long as he’s part of one of the sport’s most successful organizations, and as long as he remains a fan favorite and a powerful marketing machine, the spotlight is going to shine brightly on him.

And he and whoever his crew chief happens to be are going to have to learn how to deal with that and overcome it.

As long as he is Dale Earnhardt Jr., that will continue to be his greatest challenge.

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  1. 1
    sweetthings88 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 9:16 AM

    There is no driver and no team in nascar who face the media scrutiny and pressure that Dale Earnhardt Jr. does. Enought said. Case closed.

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    blazer190596 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 9:47 AM

    The JR brand has been very,very crafted, groomed and managed for ten years now. Kelly and her staff spend some 3000 plus hours a year keeping the JR brand and money machine moving at the highest speed possible! Jr and his management group have become the highest paid in all of sports next to Tiger Woods! JR and all of those around him need to keep their heads down, their mouths closed and keep moving. The expression goes "you asked for it, now deal with it, don't p---, moan and complain"!!

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    IPOPTHEKEG said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:03 AM

    Jr is a loser and never had a chance.

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    terry5lab said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    I agree, It's all about the $ now. He could care less about winning now. He is set for life!!!!

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    jessydoyle49 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    I just read on another site that jr,s. average starting position this year is equal to the aggerate IQ of jr nation. Do you think this could be possable????

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    Turning_Left said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Ah yes, the Junior bashers are back, once again proving Dale Junior is the most popular driver in NASCAR.

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    ipull4jr said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:26 PM

    #5, I hope your IQ is a little higher than your ability to spell is.

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    fredstephens said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:27 PM

    I have nothing to say because soon motorsportsphotograghy will post a comment here and he knows everything about everything.

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    gthom56978 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM

    gosh #5 IQ????? why is the last word in your quote misspelled. Seems as if there is so much jealousy for this young man.DaleJr. Wonder why? Is it that your driver do not have enough fans to buy t-shirts. Yea, we support our driver wheather he wins or not. And one more thing, He will win.

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    andee said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:31 PM

    Yes! Jr and Kyle petty are both sons of former champions.The pressure on poor Kyle must be unbearable.I am sure both of them will be able to hold up under having so many fans.

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    lilmofishin said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:32 PM

    IF ITS FAIR TO BASH KYLE IT IS FAIR TO BASH JR LOSER.

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    ipull4jr said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    #8,how true! LOL

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:36 PM

    Well, the only thing I'm gonna say is, I'm sick of seeing people say that Junior has no desire to win anymore. YOU ARE NOT DALE JR. You don't know what's going on inside his head. You don't know what his desires are. So you can't factually say that he doesn't want to win anymore. Every driver out there wants to win, and just because Junior has a lot of money, doesn't mean that he still doesn't want to win. No comment about the thing on the IQ. I think that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen on here.

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    sweetthings88 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:41 PM

    Thank you post #6 and #13 you both are right on. No more should have to be said.

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    dale88fan said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    I hate to say it but Brad will probadly beat him tonight. He doesn't care about winning. If he did he would at least get a Top 5 or a Top 10 once in ahwile.

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    mare said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    You Jr. bashers::::What have you got to bash Jr over??? he doesn't act like an idiot on the track, he doesn't act like an idiot after the race(or when he doesn't win), he doesn't act like an idiot with the reporters and he certainly doesn't act like an idiot with the fans at the track. So yes, fair is fair, but bashing kyle and Jr are mixing apples and oranges. Yes, Jr hasn't been winning, that doesn't call for a "bashing". Are you bashing the other drivers that aren't or haven't been winning???? Or do even see other drivers on the track????? I haven't read anything from you on them.

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    millporter said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 12:53 PM

    So-called Junior Nation? What rock you been under Jeff Owens? I'm a bonafide JR NATION member and in my 50s. Before he went to HMS and changed his colors, all you could see was a sea of red in the stands. Those stands are dull now, arent they? Thats because we are wearing black, dark green, and white. hehe Everyone has their favs. Just because Jr's not racing up front doesnt mean we dont watch to the checkered flag. Smoke put it on Cryle Busch (the 1 I love to ha8) last week. Just keep watching and writing articles like this 1. JR Nation knows the TV ratings are down. J00N needs to win a race to pick those ratings up, TVLAND!:) #88 is GR88!

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    buschfan said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 1:02 PM

    The Most Popular Loser you mean. He hasnt won a race in 3 years except for the 1 that Nascar gave him last year.

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    sharpie51 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 1:07 PM

    I think that jr has handled all the pressure with being the most popular driver very well. Even the other big name drivers have said that they wouldn't want that kind of pressure on them, and admire him on how well he does handle it! Go jr, don't worry what others think or say about you. We are here for you, and all others are just jealous!!!

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    SheilaLovesNASCAR said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 1:15 PM

    Well said, #8. Jr. is not my favorite. However he sure isn't an idiot like someone else. He's a good guy. And I think if his father was still here, he would have been a better driver. He was great while his father was still alive. He beat his father racing.

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    RowdySux said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 1:41 PM

    Hey thanx for not posting my opinion since the truth evidently hurt your feelings.I thought this was CRYle's secondary website and since he "has no feelings" you guys shouldn't either.

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    angelpat said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 1:44 PM

    I like the new name...Cryle Busch....ha ha ha ha!!!! Love it!!!!

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    RowdySux said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 1:51 PM

    Ooh that's original Scrubfan

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    RowdySux said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 1:56 PM

    Is it coincidence that CRYle "specials needs" Busch is sponsored by products geared towards kids and dogs?Except Z-Line which can't get sold on blue light special @ K-Mart and NOS which sits far past its expiration date.

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    bmontecarlo99 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:00 PM

    Well I guess the only thing for the media is duty bound to do in their own minds is hound the guy out of the sport. Once that's done then who's next Stewart, Busch, until all that's left are divers who act like pro golfers but are photogenic,give good quotes, and have well stocked hospitality suites for the media. Has the sport become so bland that they rush to start little fires to see if they can grow them into big ones for more TV share or more print space? Given the National Inquirer style out there now most of the sports old time stars would never had stood up to the current litmus test. The guy is having a lousy year well those are the breaks folks leave it alone they all do and it runs in cycles. If loud mouthed Ole DW who would have everyone believe he's just everybody's old pal (who for anyone who saw him race in the early years knows that total BS) hadn't started making predictions last year and let just him decompress from DEI and settle in at HMS things would have been different the original thought was at HMS there would be less pressure not more. It wouldn't surprise me one bit that sooner than some might think Junior just calls it a day and runs his numerous and successful business ventures and let the vultures feast on someone else.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:05 PM

    Let's not confuse what Tony,Jr.'s opinion of what he thought was a problem with what Dale, Jr. said. After Tony Jr. talked to the media and blamed them, Dale, Jr. in another article entitled, "Dale Earnhardt, Jr. doesn't blame media for slow start this season." He (Dale, Jr.)came back to say that the media was not to blame. In other words, he didn't agree with his cousin, Tony, Jr. Dale, Jr. also said he had taken a lot of heat from the media and that was to be expected given his status. He also said, "that's just the way it is, that's part of being the Most Popular Driver in the sport. Dale, Jr. also said he doesn't think anything that happens outside the car affects performance. I have never read or heard Dale, Jr. blame his fans for anything. He thanks his fans and tells us how much he appreciates us. I know that will be hard for some of you to understand, but it is what it is. I will continue to boost and support Dale, Jr. until the day he comes out and says for us( the fans) not to. Jr. has dealt and overcame a lot of things and will continue to do so. Dale Jr. is not a quitter! He can and has handled a lot of things most drivers couldn't or wouldn't want to have to! Dale, Earnhardt, Jr. is #1

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    EARNHARDTISGAY said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:13 PM

    Jr sucks more than Rowdy. As least he wins

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    EARNHARDTISGAY said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:14 PM

    A lot more original than you

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    EARNHARDTISGAY said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM

    NOS tastes better than AMP

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    EARNHARDTISGAY said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:15 PM

    NOS tastes better than AMP

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    diamond56 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:29 PM

    Jealousy rouses it's ugly head. These people that put Jr. down are so jealous they can't get their driver as the most popular. If Kyle Busch EVER becomes the most popular, I will have to give Nascar up. That young man needs to be taken out behind the shed and taught some respect!!

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    EARNHARDTISGAY said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    No different than the ones that but Rowdy down. Get use to it.

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    jerryswiatek said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:34 PM

    Hey #8 I haven't seen that Idoits post yet, Maybe someone shot him!

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    pj88 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:35 PM

    The bashers are ashamed of their drivers and they think that bashing Jr will help get fans for their driver.Wrong,I am for Dale Jr.All the Dale Jr fans that I know says the same,and I know a lot of them.We want Jr to enjoy what he doing and you all need to look at the stats,He done better than a lot of the guys that have been around as long as him.How do any of you know that your driver won't cool down in the next few years or maybe he's already cooling down.

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    pj88 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:44 PM

    I agree with Rusty Wallace,maybe the nationwide racing toyotas need to be torn apart by nascar

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM

    This is the main difference between Earnhardt fans and Kyle Busch fans. Junior fans bash Kyle Busch and to Kyle fans it's bashing. But when they bash Junior, they're just simply "stating their opinion" yeah right.

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    psl1999881 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 3:07 PM

    Tony, Jr., that's nothing but "loser" talk. BTW, whose job was it to get Jr. into his pit stall at Daytona????????

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    johnlepage said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM

    I read the posts on JR and Kyle and I just know we are only a heartbeat away from a Youtube video of someone crying like the Brittany fan. So if you are even thinking about it.....don't!

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    going2heaven said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM

    matthewallenhughes, what are you talking about? That is complete nonsense.

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    ellie1120 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM

    a shadow

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    ellie1120 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM

    look out for Joey

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    ellie1120 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM

    a shadows

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM

    #41, don't tell me that it's complete nonsense. I've heard Kyle Busch fans say that on here before. That about when they bash Junior that they're just "stating their opinion." I've made statements about Kyle before, and then I'm accused of being a Kyle basher.

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    Werner said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 4:46 PM

    it's never about being most popular, it's about winning races...isn't that why they race in NASCAR?...
    this most popular thing should have ended back in the Elliott days, when it was found out that the voting process was flawed...

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    dmiller70 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM

    hey all you idiots especially #5 i belong to junior nation i love junior i think he is wonderful i am personally sick and tired of you idiots downing him just because his last name is Earnhardt. Junior is his own man, he is making his own legend i will defend him till the end He can drive a race car better then some of you fools drive a street car. so shut your pie hole

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    For some reason the MPD is still there and as long as it is someone will be voted in. Who ever it is will just have to learn to deal with it. Someone needs to inform the media that it's never about being MPD, because they think they are suppose to report on their every move. I think all drivers are out there to try to win races.

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    TerryRaceFan said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    #8, MSP won't be on here until after the race is over. He is loading up his Brownie camera and feeding his ego from all the girls that he says surround him every weekend. Stayed tuned though, I'm sure he won't disappoint you with a comment. Like you said he knows it all, or pretends to.

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    #46, nice try, but you don't have to have a voting process to determine who's the most popular driver in NASCAR. Just listen to the fans during Driver Introductions.

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    knchevy41 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 5:28 PM

    That picture is ancient! Put a picture of his car on there!

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM

    MSP is not at the race this weekend. He said last week he would not be there for all of you who miss him so much. lol

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    sweetthings88 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 6:00 PM

    Good come back Gwen. I just don't understand some of these folks. I thought SceneDaily was for folks to get on voice there opinions. Not to rip somebody or somethings apart.Well any ways I'm still a Full fledged Dale Jr. fan. Good luck Dale Jr. and team#88

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 6:12 PM

    Sweetthings88, I wasn't trying to be rude to anyone. I hope I haven't come across that way. BUT>>>>>DALE, JR. IS THE BEST!!!!!!

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    going2heaven said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 6:20 PM

    matthewallenhughes, your post is nonsense because it is false and because YOU have different definitions of bashing, depending on which driver is being spoken of (I'm specifically referring to the previous Jr thread, where you tried that same theory and were proven false). YOU are a hypocrite.

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    sweetthings88 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 6:51 PM

    No Gwen you wasn't being rude. I understood where you was coming from.

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 7:06 PM

    Ah, but you are going to heaven #55, and you call me a hypocrite? You think you're going to heaven that way? That's wrong of you to say, but I'm not God, so it's not my right to judge you. No it's not nonsense. Plus, show me where I was proven false. I don't even remember what I posted on the last thread. I never bash anybody, I just state my own opinion. Since that's what Kyle fans call it. I respect everybody's opinion, including yours, whether I agree with it or not. But when I post my opinions about Junior being a talented driver and stuff like that, there's always some kind of negative reply to it. I think you're misunderstanding me. I have every right to post my own opinion, but that seems to be a problem to some people. Therefore, I have to go on the defensive for myself and start making posts about Kyle fans like yourself because (and no I'm not referring to you) that make posts about Junior Nation. But we should be talking about the racing instead of attacking each other. Go get 'em Junior!

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    johnson023 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 7:37 PM

    #16 no Jr doesn't need to act like an idiot he is just a plain IDIOT.

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    IPOPAKEG2933 said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 7:52 PM

    # 49 Your right! They say they(not me) call them "PIT LIZARD'S" they will talk to "ANYONE" to get next to their favorite driver! Same with a "Band" the Girl's will hang out with a Rodie to get to the Guy's in the band! That Brownie Camera, cracked me up! LOL!

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    dale said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 9:39 PM

    Jr has been in the top 15 for a while as of now in the race.

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    dale said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 9:40 PM

    gthom56978, just a suggestion, before attacking someone for a spelling error you might want to check your own spelling :)

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    dale said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 9:41 PM

    Hmm... Jr just took Menard out.

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    dale said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 9:43 PM

    By taking Menard out I mean Jr. rubbed Menard and cut Menard's rear tire down which caused the accident (watch the reply for those that will want to attack me).

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    going2heaven said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 9:49 PM

    matthewallenhughes, Yes I am going to heaven. No, it is not wrong for me to say you are a hypocrite, because it's the truth in this situation. The proof starts on the thread "Dale Earnhardt Jr doesn't blame media for slow start to season"; specifically relating to posts #9, 10, 13, 20, 21, 29, 31, 36. So, I'm not misunderstanding you, the fact is you do have different standards/definitions of "bashing" according to who is being discussed.
    I do agree that you have every right to post your opinion, as do I and everyone else. And I'll say again that I like both Jr and Kyle, as well as other drivers.

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    dale said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 10:40 PM

    15th place and no change in the overall points standings.

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 10:48 PM

    And so are you suggesting that I don't have other favorite drivers? As for the posts on the previous thread, if you look, I didn't even post on 9 and 10 and my other post was #21. As for some REPEAT SOME Kyle fans bashing Junior, they do. Not to say that SOME, not all, repeat SOME NOT ALL Junior fans bash Kyle. But basically you claimed in the last thread that when people say "Junior sucks" and stuff like that, that they are simply stating their opinions that Kyle is the better driver. Well, I don't think that Kyle is the better driver, so that's my opinion. I know that you like Junior too, but you're obviously a bigger Kyle fan. So your problem is that I don't agree with you. Sure, you said that people have their own rights to post their opinions, but because I'm a Junior fan, you're obviously going to disagree with every post that I write.

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 10:57 PM

    My #66 post was directed to #64

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    going2heaven said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:16 PM

    matthewallenhughes #66, you missed everything by a country mile. What a mess, I'm not even going to touch that post. Have a nice night.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:31 PM

    #20, Dale never beat Sr driving. In the only year they raced together Sr finished 2nd and Dale finished 16th.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:33 PM

    #37, They tear those Toyota's apart every time they win and they don't find anything. Next thing your going to say is the officials are paid off.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:35 PM

    #39, Tony had Brad up in the Top 10 and would have got him a Top 5 if it wasn't for the wreck.

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:37 PM

    Yeah #68, I'm done with you too. Have a GREAT night.. See outdid you again

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:38 PM

    MSP good to have you back.... but I don't think that he was talking about championship standings, i think he was talking about individual races.. and in that case Junior won 3 times in his rookie season which means he beat the whole field 3 times

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:39 PM

    #52, Gwen, We had a great time in Canada, Got our 10th win of the season. Going for our 17th Championship and tomorrow going Drag racing. I posted a pic below.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:43 PM

    #73, huh, Sr won twice and Dale won twice. You must be counting the All Star race.

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:43 PM

    YEAH U TOO GOING2HEAVEN

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    matthewallenhughes said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:44 PM

    Yeah I was counting that

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 11, 2009 at 11:56 PM

    The writers need to understand that there are thousands of Jr. fans that never even watched Dale Sr. We are fans because of JR. himself and him only. Who among us could perform at anthing if we were told we were no good each and every day of our life. Nobody. Those that have no feelings for what Jr. goes through simply have no feelings at all for others.

    Also, I feel hendrick has tried to change to much of Jr., you can only change someone so much. Hendrick changes how he talks on the radio, tells him what he should eat, how much he should work out and on and on. I am beginning to think hendrick wanted jr. for the money only and not so much for the wins. Also gives the driver that brings him the most money a crew chief that has never been a full time cup chief. Lance may prove to be great but come on, what is the reason he has never been a full time cup chief.

    Let Jr. be Jr. and things will turn around.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:12 AM

    #76, Stop right there. Sr never told Dale he was no good everyday of his life. Rick has never tried to change Dale. He is the same Dale he always was.He eats what he wants and talks the way he has always talked. Rick is one of the greatest guys in this sport and is like a father figure to everyone that works there. His door is always open. he is not like some executive that you have to see their secretary and make a appointment. Lance is one of the best. He gave Brian a NW Championship and is one of the smartest people at HMS. And I don't know that the change was so good after all because again Dale had Lance setup the car for running a certain line tonight and then switched to a different line which cost him a Top 10.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM

    I meant #78

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:17 AM

    And by the way. HMS doesn't make anything off of Dales souvenirs for another year. The contract was made up that way. He is actually losing money because he isn't winning.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:31 AM

    I have heard hendrick say out of his own mouth how he was telling jr. what he needed to do, on the radio, working out and on and on. You must have somehow missed that interview. So back off of me. I don't say what I have not heard for myself.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:34 AM

    Lance may have won some but so has Jr. won championships. He still has never been a full time cup chief. There is a difference. As far as Jr. running a different line that he and lance were planning.........I will wait for what they say themselves rather than go on what Kyle Petty says.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:52 AM

    #82, Mark is the fitness king and Jimmie is the healthy eater over at HMS. They introduced Dale to working out and eating healthy. Dales mom and Kelley cleaned out his bus and got rid of the junk food and then his mom went over to his house and took all the junk food. He has been been running and doing other things during the week but Rick didn't make him do anything. Dale is a big boy but he still listens to his mom and Kelley.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:55 AM

    I heard dale jr. tell all about kelley and his mom and how he was trying to eat better. I already knew that. I also still heard exactly what hendrick said about what he was telling jr. A fact is a fact.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:58 AM

    I heard Dale jr. talking about how his mom and sister were helping him with healthy food. I already knew all that. YOu can't tell me much that I do not already know about jr. I also know what hendrick said about what he was telling jr. to do. A fact is a fact, I heard it out of hendricks own mouth. I also know martin spends hours working out. Not telling me anything I did not already know.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:01 AM

    We are all big boys and girls but most listen to what their boss says.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:02 AM

    #83, Really, I guess you haven't been watching racing that long. Lance has been a crew chief for 9 years at HMS. He worked with Jeff after Ray left and then Brian. He got Brian a NW Championship. He is one of the best. And I haven't watched a race on TV for along time but Kyle is one of the best announcers I have ever heard. And if you watched Dale, he ran the high line a lot of the night and then tried running the low line. And at the end he was seeking any line he could find where his car worked but it was already to late in the race.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:06 AM

    Well your the one who said Rick is trying to change Dale. And Rick might be saying what Dale is changing but he is not making him do anything. If Dale was staying out late and abusing his body and not sleeping Rick might step in. I think that Dale was wanting to get in shape for himself.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:10 AM

    You must not read too well, I said full time cup crew chief. I watched the race. Did you hear the radio between him and lance. Kyle just might be wrong, a picture does not always tell all the facts. I do my research rather I was watching at the time or not. Jr. won a 2 championships, does that make him the best. YOu are not the only one with knowledge even though you think you are.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:13 AM

    You just are not reading what I am saying, I heard hendrick say it and in other articles I read. You are wrong about this one. But really who cares. I know what I heard.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:13 AM

    Dale won 2 NW Championships not Cup.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:19 AM

    Good grief....i know what championships Jr. won. You are certainly not reading my comments. I told you there is very little about Jr. that you could say that I do not already know.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:20 AM

    It was not nw when jr. won.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 1:33 AM

    The only difference in a Cup crew chief and a NW crew chief is the cars. NW has less horsepower a smaller cfm carb, the wheelbase is shorter and the car is lighter. Other than that if you can crew chief for a NW team, you can crew chief for a Cup team. Lance has a degree in mechanical engineering and Im sure that Rick picked him for his brilliance on how to setup a car. I hope your not blaming Dales finishes on Lance.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 8:39 AM

    Dale, Jr. takes the blame on himself usually. Then he might say we just have to get better, including all of his team and Crew Chief as well as himself.In that All-Stars race where Jr. won and passed Dale, Sr. was something else. Jr. had a car that would fly and the way he drove and passed drivers like they were sitting still was unbelievable. I love watching that race over and over. lol That black #3 and that red #8. Dale, Sr. and Jr. didn't get to race that much together before Dale, Sr. died.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 9:13 AM

    This is the third time I have tried to send this!!Msp, Dale, Jr. has brought in big time money already this year from endorsements alone. So where does that money go????? Hendrick is not losing crap off of Jr. He is making money from Jr. Not talking about selling tee shirts either.

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    br0412 said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 9:56 AM

    Jr is the man, win or loose. He is the most down to earth driver out there and that is why he has so many fans. He does not cry or bash other drivers, a true honest person. His game is off but he will return and Jr Nation will be there with him.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:00 AM

    Gwen, Dale actually made less money last year than in recent years. Dale made 22 million from Endorsements and a little over 4 million in Salary and Winnings vs Jeff who made 6 million in salary and Winnings and 15 million from Endorsements. Dale has his personal deals with Adidas and Wrangler and whatever commercials and speaking events he does and that is his deals. Rick isn't in this for the money, he wants Championships. Money means nothing to him. He lost half of his family that were devoted to him and his business. He could have walked away years ago. It all about that Trophy

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    lhsjrf said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:06 AM

    You are looking at the wrong numbers. Hendrick said himself he may go to just selling and supporting other teams like stewart. He said there is more money in it. It is not all about the wins. You really need to do some research before you comment MSP. Jr. made more money than anyone.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM

    #100, He said that as a joke at Infineon. I have his Exact quote right here........“I’m going to stop racing and build cars and sell motors,” joked Hendrick. “You don’t turn down any business these days........ I think you need to do your homework before you comment.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:30 AM

    MSP, You have to have sponsorships for Nascar, car owners, etc. to survive. Earnhardt has made AMP a lot of return money. Before you think about the trophy, you have to have that sponsorship money there. I know Rick wants those wins.... who doesn't? I'm not talking about last year. I'm talking about this year. A 24th place car can actually make more money than a 8th or 9th place car. If you don't believe it...look it up. Rick must be in it for the money because he is surely making his decision's wisely when it comes to money. I'm beginning to believe that is what it is all about anymore....especially to car owners. I am also sure Rick would give it all up to have his family back. So don't get me wrong on that part.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:37 AM

    I have known that man since Tim and I worked with Terry personally when he won his Championship. I knew Ricky pretty good. Like I said earlier. Money means nothing to him. He owns 54 car dealerships. You will never hear Rick says it is not about the wins EVER. This guy lives for Wins, he is obsessed with wins. He is celebrating his 60th birthday right now and I guarantee he is still talking about Mark last night.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:47 AM

    Gwen, that 25 million in sponsorship money goes directly to the competition side of HMS. Each car is over 300,000 now. I think what you are getting at are the contingency awards that are part of the winnings. Those are for every sticker that is on that car and then their are the ones for the pole, most laps led, best crew chief and so on. Yes a driver that finishes 24 can make more than a driver finishing 18. because of those awards.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    If you had to pay your bills off of race winnings they wouldnt be able to make the next race. lol

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:56 AM

    I said I know Rick wants the wins... ok he is obsessed with the wins. But think about what you just said. He has 54 car dealerships.. Dealerships makes money. I understand what you mean though. In racing, you are saying he doesn't care about the money, just the wins. Still and yet the money, sponsorships, etc. has to be there for Mr. Hendrick to get his wins. That is why he was looking a year ahead about the GM bankruptcy deal. I know how smart that man is. He is a walking talking money making machine. And I mean that in a good way!!

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    Yes...Exactly what you said in post 104!

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM

    Gwen, I remember when Kenny worked for Rick. he was there about 10 years. He won only 4 races in those 10 years but Rick liked him and kept him. Sure he was losing money on Kenny but they were friends. But those were the old days when Randy built the best motors on the circuit and the costs weren't as high as they are now. Now they spend every dime they make to try to try to keep up with each others. This year Ford will release their new motor, its suppose to be able to compete with the Chevy's. Next year Toyota will debut their new motor. The costs just keep going up and up but the cars are still going the same speed.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    And why are they still going the same speed?

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    KenL88 said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:12 PM

    Well I see eveyone back I have to say for once post#88 I agree with that post MSP Dale likes running that high line but more than not it seems to bite him.About the post there is another post where he disagrees with Tony about the statement he made about the media. And as always Dale admits he and the team are just not performing and need to improve.Not going back to look but wohoever posted Brad will run better that didn't happen at one point he was ahead of Jr. because of Tony's pit move that was it. His car didn't seem to be dialed in until late in the race.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM

    Because they cant go any faster on these tracks. When was the last time you saw a track record broken during qualifying? I cant remember, can you? it makes no sense. Dodge has spent millions on the new motor and it was out last year. Kurt was the first one to run it. RPM has just started to run it in a few select races this year. Ray was so tired of it that he walked away from the sport because he said he wasn't going to switch manufactures. Its just ridicules.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 12:15 PM

    #110, Isn't that when it counts!

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    skippy said:
    Jul 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM

    I don,t think all these critics would like the media and fans saying the nasty things they do about them would they? It is not going to change anything so quit trying to make something out of nothing. I will watch Earnhardt as long as live no matter what he does. As for Busch when he proves he can race with other cars without wrecking them instead of always leading maybe he will earn respect and grow up there are to many good drivers out there to show real racing.

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