Former teammates Gordon, Busch displeased with one another
By Lee Montgomery - Associate Editor
Monday, May 26, 2008
Jeff Gordon (left) talks with former teammate Kyle Busch following the Coca-Cola 600 at Lowe's Motor Speedway.
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CONCORD, N.C. – Former Hendrick Motorsports teammates Kyle Busch and Jeff Gordon had a brief conversation after the Coca-Cola 600 after Busch was apparently upset with how hard Gordon was racing him.
Busch refused to answer a question about it in his postrace news conference, saying the conversation would remain quiet. But Gordon, who finished one position behind Joe Gibbs Racing’s Busch in fourth, didn’t.
“He’s got an issue because he gave me the finger, and you know what?” Gordon said. “That’s not necessary for a guy he just didn’t like racing him the way I did.”
Gordon and Busch were teammates at Hendrick before Busch left for JGR this season.
“Kyle and I never had any issues,” Gordon said. “But I raced him hard tonight just like I did everybody. And when track position is as important as it is here, you’ve got to race every single car for every single position.
“And I wasn’t going to give anybody an inch, and I was racing for position.”
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angela conley said:
May 26, 2008 at 9:05 AMu go jeff, i'm tired of the - everybody is supposed to be afraid when they see me in their mirror - kyle bull. it appears that the media keeps giving him a pass on everything he does. he's still got the anger he had at hms! poor baby, he didn't win
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» Confirm Abuse Reportmike simpson said:
May 26, 2008 at 11:07 AMGORDON, BABY. HE IS UPSET THAT BUSCH IS DOING ALOT BETTER THEN HE IS . NOW WE KNOW WHO IS THE POOR BABY. HMS IS UP SET THAT THEY LEFT THE WRONG DRIVER GO!!!!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRoxanne Wickersham said:
May 26, 2008 at 12:17 PMJeff has the right to race as hard as need be. Kyle is the big baby, if he can't handle it, maybe he should go home. Yes he has been doing fairly good this year but he is still no team player and needs to grow up! Please...flipping someone the finger just cuz they are racing him so hard. Whaa Whaa Whaa!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportWorm Dirt said:
May 26, 2008 at 12:18 PMIn my neck of the woods...I've watched sweet, innocent, church-going, fifty-something year-old ladies flip Gordon the bird as he made his way around Talladega superspeedway. SO!!!!!....This issue should be a pretty FASCINATING gauge as to just how deeply the herd hates Kyle Busch at this point in time.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
May 26, 2008 at 12:38 PMIf i was Kyle id take Gordon out every chance i got.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportValeri Leist said:
May 26, 2008 at 12:39 PMKyle Busch and Denny Hamlin think that they can knock people out of the way whenever they want but god forbid someone should race them hard. These two are absolute crybabies and they need to be taught a lesson!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBetty Stoneman said:
May 26, 2008 at 12:46 PMAmen, Valerie! Those two think they own the track and I don't know how Joe Gibbs and Tony Stewart can stand either of them. I certainly can't! Betty in Roanoke
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
May 26, 2008 at 12:49 PMI'm a huge Jeff Gordon fan and I loved that he was racing Busch for position. Kyle Busch sucks!!!!It's a race it's what you guys do out there Kyle! U SUCK!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reported gordon said:
May 26, 2008 at 12:55 PMGordons not upset about HMS lack of of performance,he knows they are so far behind it's laughable.
Report as AbuseWhat he's upset about is the little TuRD flipping him off,for racing him hard?Thought thats what drivers were paid to do.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSandra Dodd said:
May 26, 2008 at 1:06 PMI don't like Kyle that much, but the boy can drive. Wait till Jr. starts winnin and u
Report as Abusewill really hear jeff and jimmie cry. A Smoke fan
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» Confirm Abuse ReportGrover rickman said:
May 26, 2008 at 1:11 PMIf he messes with Gordon he will get the HORNS !!!!!!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportgrandamgt Russell said:
May 26, 2008 at 1:13 PMJimmy Spencer said it best on Nascar Victory Lane. As a 4 time champion, Jeff Gordon has "earned" the right to race his competitors hard". He went on to say that Hamlin and Kyle should take notice of that. I've never seen 2 drivers that have whined so much for being raced hard when they both race others hard, although reckless most of the time. And they must get together to see who can come up with the most "threatening" quote of the week. Fist it was Kyle with "you mess with the bull and you will get the horns" and then Hamlin with his "You throw a rock, I’m going to throw a concrete block back". GROW UP both of you. You aren't in grade school anymore and this isn't the playground. You would think that the "family oriented" Gibbs family would do something. After all, they couldn't hire Dale Jr. last year because of Budweiser, my goodness, that would never fit their image of good Christian family. I guess it's better to have 2 punks as part of their "family".
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTommie Clinard said:
May 26, 2008 at 1:19 PMWhen are these young drivers, Ky. Busch and D. Hamlin for example, going to learn that the sport that they are participating in is called racing. The green flag means GO and the checkered flag means RACE OVER. Unless they are shown the move over flag or the caution flag they are racing. No matter what position, they are racing. They could be racing for 42nd position. No matter, they are racing. Nuff said.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportWorm Dirt said:
May 26, 2008 at 2:03 PMActually 'grandamgt Russell', didn't Budweiser drop Junior this year? So that couldn't be the reason Junior didn't go to JGR now is it? PERSONALLY, I always SUSPECTED that when Junior was shopping around to pick where he wanted to go in 2008, Gibbs shot him straight and confessed that they were switching to Toyota...... and SO Junior, fearing a backlash from some of his more narrow-minded fans, crossed Joe Gibbs Racing off of the list and signed over at the Robot factory of HMS to be in a chevy.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportNorman . said:
May 26, 2008 at 2:15 PMWoo Hoo, Kyle can't stand the heat apparently.. What??? Noone is suppose to race ME HARD?? Move over fellas, I'm suppose to win here, says Bush... SHEEZ... This is racing little Bushy, grow up and stand with the MEN, or go home to Mama... Probably where you belong anyways...
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» Confirm Abuse ReportWorm Dirt said:
May 26, 2008 at 2:16 PMAs for Kyle and Denny being hypocrites for whining about drivers racing them hard when they race others hard, I can probably agree..... BUT!!! I'd say every single driver in the garage is guilty of the same thing at some point! Imagine being Kyle and being told by "veteran" drivers how and when he should race hard, and THEN those same "veteran" drivers do the same thing to him! AND what about the hypocrisy of some of the fans here???? The ones screaming and crying about Kyle racing too hard and wrecking junior.....AND NOW they are saying conflicting things to Kyle like... "It's called RACING, GET OVER IT". Blah, blah, blah, etc, blah...... Who cares.... This why my focus is on what happens on the track and the exciting things that these "hated" drivers are doing. The rest is just a comedy show.....
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
May 26, 2008 at 2:18 PMNot a fan of either driver. I thought the name of the game was racing. There is to much of this just letting guys go around. If you can't pass someone don't cry about. This free passing will turn racing into the WWF racing with a script. Let's go guys race.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
May 26, 2008 at 2:18 PMKyle Busch is doing better than most because NASCAR wants it that way. Other drivers are NOT upset with KB because he is doing better than most....but, because he gets away with things that no one else is allowed to get away with....once NASCAR insures that the big "TOY" gets a championship, everything will get back to normal....and for U anti JG fans.....he'll retire with more money than you will dream of having and merely laugh at KB...all the way to the bank!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportKen Kipping said:
May 26, 2008 at 2:42 PMIt's still amazing to me to hear all of the stupid comments from all of the mental midgets who hate Gordon. There is no comparison between Busch and Jeff. Kyle will go through his entire career alienating the really class professionals in the sport. He really would fit well in Formula One, where egos rule.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTimothy Schultze said:
May 26, 2008 at 2:43 PMIf you know it all's only care about what goes on on-track then dont comment about what goes on off track. Just stick your head back up your backside where it apparently is. The thing about JG he has NEVER backed down from anybody you want to call him out he`ll meet ya halfway you want to call what he does whining THEY ALL DO IT ALL OF THEM.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportsandra medura said:
May 26, 2008 at 2:54 PMyou notice that jeff waved his finger in busch's face and kyle was just standing there. about time someone shut busch up. he thinks that he owns the tracks. he is so full of himself i am surprised that he can fit his head in the car. like kenny wallace and jimmy spencer said on victory lane. stop whinning kyle. listen to gordon.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMike Schaefer said:
May 26, 2008 at 3:30 PMKyle is a jerk,always has been and always will be even if He can drive a race car. It must run in His family and His Teammate is just as bad,Denny (CRYBABY) Hamlin.But Jeff and Jimmy are whiners to when things don't go there way,always have been always will be. Put the mute on when they talk.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportscarlett ohara said:
May 26, 2008 at 4:05 PMKyle will burn out soon. He is running on pure spite. He is so frustrated that JR has taken his place that he thinks everyone owes him a race, just like his older brother, he will fizzle out soon....... hang in there KYLE HATERS
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
May 26, 2008 at 4:51 PMIt sounds like a few of you need to grow up , right along with shrub. He's dangerous and will cause a big accident someday, it's just a matter of time.
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» Confirm Abuse Reporttheresa james said:
May 26, 2008 at 5:15 PMokay well i do not like kyle busch and well i hate him now more then ever..kyle better watch it when he gets in jeff gordon's face..because unlike dale jr jeff gordon will not back down and he will kick busch @ss..that's the way to go Jeff Gordon bout time someone cuts kyle busch down to sides
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» Confirm Abuse ReportFlying Squirrel said:
May 26, 2008 at 5:27 PMGrow up Jeff, it's the finger. I've been pointing it at you for years! It was nice to see you have a confontation with a driver that you took off your helmet this time :-)
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJudy Cockrell said:
May 26, 2008 at 5:40 PM81 WINS, 4 (6) CHAMPIONSHIPS--- MAYBE KYLE WITH HIS 3 WINS SHOULD SHOW SOME RESPECT!! HE MIGHT JUST LEARN SOMETHING.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMichael W Baylor said:
May 26, 2008 at 6:49 PMWhat is it that Joe Gibb's driver's think that everyone else on the track is just suppose to pull over & let them go. Hamlin saturday night & Busch last night. Busch likes to be called Rowdy Busch, but we all know how Rowdy's career ended in Day's of Thunder. If I was the other 40 drivers on the track the 3 Gibb's car was be the first out of the race every week.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportkristy fristed said:
May 26, 2008 at 8:06 PMSo, how do you all think Kyle would react to getting the finger while trying to pass a guy at the end of the race for position?? He would make a huge scene and whine and point fingers. Jeff is a great driver, as Kyle is proving himself to be also. But Kyle needs to deflate that head of his. He needs to learn that stepping back will only make him better. Theres a reason he fits in so well at JGR. Hes just like the other two guys he races with. All these guys whine when things dont go their way, but at least the Hendrick drivers are respectable on and off the track!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
May 26, 2008 at 8:31 PMAnonymou, I am so glad that you see the hype about Kyle Busch because NASCAR has had a downterm and allow KB to get by with any and everything. He deliberately hits other drivers at every race, and they cow down because they never know what NASCAR is going to do. They squashed Junior's agressive driving early on in his career because they didn't intend for him to drive like his dad. I am not a Jeff Gordon fan, and heaven knows he has whacked enough drivers on the track, but I'd give him a gold star if I could for mixing it with that arrogant little jack@**. If you get the horns if you mess with the bull, what do you get if you mess with a jack@#*?
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPearl Roll said:
May 26, 2008 at 9:37 PMoh my god-why dont you all shut up already. you really make a person want to hate nascar with all your frikken stupid comments. So u have an opinion-keep it to yourself!! You all think you are so dam smart and now everything as to why he said this or that or why he bumped him- I would like to see you go do what they do. Jimmy Spence has a big mouth and does nothing but double talk. He changes his opinions like the wind depending on the driver. I love to watch the RACING and could care less bout anything else. So get a life would ya and keep your mouths shut. Kyle or someone should give Jr. driving lessons so Jr. nation quits there dam whining already. Get over it Kyle is gonna kick all there asses at the rate he is going so move on already to something else. Not all racers are prim an proper pansies. Thank God for the JGR bunch-makes it fun.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
May 27, 2008 at 1:06 AMgrandamgt Russell and Worm Dirt--Budweiser didn't "drop" Junior. Junior wanted sponsors that would allow him to sell his merchandise to fans of all ages. Junior said all along he wanted to drive a Chevy.
Report as AbuseNow getting to "Rowdy"--it's okay when he races others hard, but they can't race him hard. He needs to grow up or leave. I'm hoping he will go to F1. Good riddance!
Now here's something NASCAR fans can think about: Junior is considering moving his Nationwide team up to Sprint Cup racing next year and wants some experienced drivers. Do you suppose his friend Tony might be driving for JR Motorsports next year?
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» Confirm Abuse Reportgrandamgt Russell said:
May 27, 2008 at 6:57 AMI never said Budweiser "dropped" Junior. I said Bud wouldn't fit with the Gibbs "family" of Sponsors, words from JD and Joe Gibbs. Bud couldn't go with him to HMS because HMS already had sponsor committments through 2009 so they had to part ways, (the contract with Bud was up anyhow). As for Pearl Roll, you tell all of us that if we have an opinon to keep it to ourselves. Take your own advice and if you don't want to read the comments, don't click on them!!!! Talk about stupid comments...........you went on and on and on
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» Confirm Abuse ReportKelly W said:
May 27, 2008 at 8:24 AMDid wittle Busch think everyone would bow out fo his way? This is Jeff Gordon, one of the greatest racers in history. Jeff needs to put this little punk in his place.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportKelly W said:
May 27, 2008 at 8:26 AMSandra Dodd wrote:
Report as AbuseI don't like Kyle that much, but the boy can drive. Wait till Jr. starts winnin and u will really hear jeff and jimmie cry. A Smoke fan
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Sandra, it's been over 2 years. Time to face the fact that Jr is an ok driver, nothing special.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJeff Waybright said:
May 27, 2008 at 8:34 AMIt always amazes me that a driver gets ticked off because they thought another driver "raced them too hard". What the heck do they expect? I wish that these guys raced each other too hard more often! This is supposed to be NASCAR racing, suck it up and drive the race car!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDaniel Glinski said:
May 27, 2008 at 8:44 AMNormally I'm not one to stick up for the 24 but Kyle runs everyone off the track every chance and he doesn't like it when someone does it to him? Start acting your age, not your car number (which in this case isn't too far off)
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMarsha Whitfield said:
May 27, 2008 at 9:50 AMI enjoyed this race more than any other the whole season because it was not a runaway BUSCH race. He runs all over everyone and shows absolute total disrespect for the safety of others and/or Nascar rules and gets away with it race after race. Yet he wants to complain because someone races him too hard. Why doesn't he just get out on the track all by himself and race around - that way no one else will "bother" him and he will win every time.
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May 27, 2008 at 10:01 AMI think this is a result of Hendrick's teams being frustrated with the bad decision to let Busch go.. in order to get Jr. Kyle has so out shined Junior this season!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMichael F Kamrad Sr said:
May 27, 2008 at 10:11 AMGordon always WHINES when things don't go his way. Poor Baby!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSherry Hedgespeth said:
May 27, 2008 at 10:15 AMYou have got to be kidding me. I don't think Hendrick's frustrations have anything to do with letting Kyle Bush go; their frustrations have to do with getting their cars where they need to be; and define out shined Anonymous; Junior is third place in the points; not even 140 points out and has managed to do that without winning a race. I'd say that Rick Hendrick is happier every day he made the choice to rid himself of KB!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportlinda nemeth said:
May 27, 2008 at 10:35 AMKyle just race and stop giving spoil sports reason to make more enemies for you. Let your wheels do the talking.I really appreciate your talent but i wish you would learn to be a little humble.Just a little.Don't change your "Get To The Front" attitude.There are some great examples on the track. Learn from them not whiners.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
May 27, 2008 at 11:21 AMsomeone needs to take out Kyle Busch and teach him a hard lesson.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJuniegirl said:
May 27, 2008 at 11:30 AMGo Gordo! Kyle looked like a whooped dog after he walked away from Jeff. Jeff showed him the finger! HA HA!
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May 27, 2008 at 11:40 AMlet's see how many years has Jeff Gordon been around he has been around alot longer then that little puss Kyle Busch...how many wins does jeff have and how many champs does he have..he has alot more then kyle busch so therefore i guess we know who the better driver is..sorry but i have never had any respect for kyle and i still don't..i say go Jeff Gordon..kyle needs to learn respect
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May 27, 2008 at 2:03 PMI'm taking Jeff's side on this one.Kyle thinks he's the new wonder boy of nascar and he's not.The only people who think highly of Kyle are the people on tv,and that's not saying much.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportsheila coolum said:
May 27, 2008 at 4:17 PMK.B. neesds to grow up. Jeff Gordon is a great driver and K.B needs to learn to respect others. Yes he can drive,Ithink everyone can see that.Hard feelings and all just learn to respect others and in time you will recieve it yourself. Jeff thank you for standing your ground.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMike Parks said:
May 27, 2008 at 4:35 PMYou ever notice it's the women who come to Gordon's and Jr's defense? It's racing girls, tempers flare and boys will be boys. So what if Rowdie gave Jeff the finger, hell that's probably something he learned from NASCAR's best driver, Smoke Stewart
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
May 27, 2008 at 8:25 PMgrandamgt Russell--If JGR is so "Christian", then why does it let its drivers accept the Budweiser pole awards??? Petty has never, to my knowledge, accepted a Bud pole award because he promised his Momma he would never take money from an alcohol sponsor. I don't like either Busch BOY. Both act like spoiled brats. Kyle's irresponsible ways got him released from HMS. Junior's leaving DEI was the last nail in Kyle's coffin at HMS. HMS knew it would have a mature, responsible driver in Junior. Apparently Kyle must tape the races and listens to the "motor mouth" announcers and believes what they say about him. I wonder when he's going to need a new helmet to fit that big head he's getting!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportkristy fristed said:
May 27, 2008 at 9:12 PMI think all these guys need to take thier issues aside and fight off the track. Their anger and ill intentions make it unsafe for the other drivers when they use their car to retaliate. Im all for good racing and seeing some crashes, but not because a guy intended to wreck another. And, pearl roll, I agree with grandamgt russell. This "comment" section is here for us all to voice our opinions, you included. So, if you dont like what we have to say, go find someone else who agrees wih you and talk all the s#!t you want about us all. get your frustations out somewhere else. :)
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» Confirm Abuse Reportkristy fristed said:
May 27, 2008 at 9:17 PMMike, racing aside, Stewart isnt a guy that racers should look up to. Ya, the guy can drive, but aside from that, hes just as whinny as his team mates. At least the "kids" are confined to one corner of the garage. Heck, I say Go Ryan Newman!! :)
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTodd Venosh said:
May 27, 2008 at 9:51 PMKyle busch is a little girl. Nascar drivers and fans are so oblivious whats going on right now... Kyle and all the other toyota drivers are doing well b/c of one reason.. Horsepower.
Report as AbuseNascar let those teams do some tinkering with there engines meaning They have roughly 50 more HP Than chevy and ford. Wake up Nascar teams and fans, thats why they are doing so well.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Pontiff said:
May 28, 2008 at 7:27 PMI love how all you say Kyle gets away with more than any driver. Hmmm what happened to that speeding penalty for Junior in the 600? NASCAR just up and decides they'll take it back? And i know for sure if that would have been Kyle and NASCAR took back the penalty there would be a riot, with people screaming that he was endangering everyones life at the track.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPeggy Thacker said:
May 28, 2008 at 9:16 PMWell if Kyle can race hard....why cant anyone else do the same????? Kyle Busch is a spoiled little boy who needs to grow up!
Report as AbuseDidnt he race Jr. hard at Richmond? Whats good for the gander is good for the goose!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbeth emerson said:
May 29, 2008 at 6:56 AMEveryone has the right to race hard. There is a difference between racing hard and being dangereous on the track. Kyle busch is a talented driver but a dangerous driver. If you watched the truck race a few weeks back. He was weaving in and out. He should not be allowed to drive that way.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportNichele Dressler said:
May 29, 2008 at 8:30 AMMichael F Kamrad Sr -- Jeff wasn't the one whining – Kyle was. Kyle came up to Jeff and gave him the finger because Jeff "raced him to hard". Who's the poor baby now?
Report as AbuseKyle's double standard is hilarious. So, it's okay that he races people hard but HEAVEN FORBID someone race him the same way. I agree that he needs to be brought down a peg or 100. Besides, he's good, but he's nowhere near the caliber of Jeff Gordon, and he never will be.
Get over yourself, Kyle!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Pontiff said:
May 29, 2008 at 1:46 PMif you honestly think Toyota is "buying" the championship or that NASCAR wants them to win the championship so they do anything to help then you have serious issues. Lets look at the teams that had Toyota's last season....where was the help for them? If i recall they didn't do too well. Perhaps it's just JGR is above the competition and it is because of there work and dedication to be champions. Quit coming up with conspiracies as to why your favorite driver isn't winning. Maybe they just aren't winners to begin with.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
May 29, 2008 at 11:01 PMWhat are you Chris?- a Toyota salesman?--The fact that last years teams didn't do too well would give a clue to a normal person. Boy, the JGR boys sure came out of the gate full steam---there's more than one person speculating about more horses for the Toyotas. Michael even did better for awhile, but he couldn't drive a peg up his @#$, much less a car.However, he made an occupation out of cheating---but we wouldn't think that Gibbs would have needed any incentive to go to Toyota after making his fortune off apple pie, Chevrolet and football in AMERICA! But of course,we all have serious issues to think that NASCAR might be inconsistent
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Pontiff said:
May 29, 2008 at 11:23 PMis it that far of a stretch to have a car company that is capable of building better equipment than an American car company? And more horsepower means that toyota is obviously building a better engine. Chevy and Ford and Dodge can all do the same but guess what? They simply don't have the technology. And do you know why little miss emily? cause american car manufacturers are garbage. bottom line. don't have to be a car salesmen to know that. there is this little thing called research and development. American can companies should look into that and maybe they will learn a few things. Your argument is bunk but tell yourself whatever you need to to be able to sleep at night. everything is a big conspiracy to you just because your driver isn't winning. nothing i can do for you there. email him and tell him to ask Kyle Busch for directions to victory lane.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
May 31, 2008 at 12:11 AMI don't need to tell myself anything to sleep at night. I'd rather have a driver who loses with dignity than a 100 Kyle Busches. He is absolutely classless, as well as you because you are not a true American, but you will realize the errors of your ways ---hopefully---one of these days.Everything you say may be true, but I've had quite good service out of every American made car I've owned which include-Ford,Pontiac, Cadillac, Buick,and Mercury, and Chevrolet. I supoport America because I live here and hope to for a long time. Why don't you go where the technology is better because people like you have given foreign countries the incentive they need to take away from this country. You and Kyle Busch deserve one another and throw in denny for hood measure!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMike Parks said:
May 31, 2008 at 6:48 AMkristy fisted, you want gentlemen drivers watch FI racing.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Pontiff said:
May 31, 2008 at 11:36 AMso what does it take to be a true American Emily? Buying strictly American made goods? You are just as classless as you think I am if you have to go that low to call me a "not true" American. You are completely idiotic and I feel sad for you and your distorted view of the world. And I am so sure that you do not own a single foreign product? If you tell me you don't, you're full of it. Even most of your American products are not made in this country. So crawl out your cave and see how the world really is.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
May 31, 2008 at 2:53 PMYou're correct---I shouldn't call you not a true American---I don't know you.Making products in this country and using them might have kept the economy in this country a bit better off. I don't know what part of the country you live in, but IN MY CAVE things are a bit skewed--high prices, factories closing, etc. Also, I haven't made a big hoopla about founding an organization for American stockcars on the beaches of Daytona and made billions off of it either. Obviously, for me to survive, even in my cave, I have to buy what I can, but you would be surprised at what I don't buy---depending on its origin.Just because that's the way it is does not make it right. Back to my cave---aren't you glad us old-timers discovered the wheel or you would be able to watch racing!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Pontiff said:
May 31, 2008 at 3:55 PMif you would like a little lesson in economics Emily just hit me up. I'll be happy to explain to you why the world works as it does. but as far as i'm concerned this is a RACING website and whether foreign cars or American cars it is still racing. So back to the racing issue of you thinking Toyota is buying the championship. All teams have the ability, maybe not the means, to learn new things to improve on building engines. Toyota is just better at it. So I'm guessing that if you and I had the same job to do and the same tools to do it, but I somehow did it better and faster than you and therefor received more "compensation" I would be labeled a "cheater". But in fact I just know how to use the tools and information better than you and succeed.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportWorm Dirt said:
Jun 1, 2008 at 1:39 AMEmily..i'm not trying to fan flames here or pick on you, but this toyota vs. america MISUNDERSTOOD debate REALLY bothers me!...let me ask you a question...let's say an inventor somewhere came up with an adaptor that would fit on YOUR car's engine...that would magically TRIPLE the miles per gallon that you get...essentially taking $4/gal gas and making it $1.34/gal...How would you feel about that?? Pretty GOOD huh? NOW LET'S ASSUME that the inventor of this adaptor wasJAPANESE!...Are you going to stick w/$4 a gallon gas or are you going to realize that american capitalism and the FREE MARKET helped to produce this AND we are ALL better for it?? If Japan invented the wheel, would you refuse to use it? Fear of Toyota in Nascar is full-on unapologetic ANTI-Capitalism...It's undebateable. I'm sorry. Go back to hating Kyle for the size of his ears or his attitude, but leave Toyota out of it! As a wise man once said "Resentment at others success is UNAMERICAN."
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
Jun 1, 2008 at 8:49 PMBoys, we'll shelve this until we hear more on the extra horsepower given to Toyota and see what's better(or whose termed a cheater!). Let's see where greed fits into your capitalism--anyway, I've paid my share of taxes, so I'm entitled to my opinion the same as you two. Worm, I'll wait and see who's going to be able to do anything with gas prices---don't think you should use that example, Mr. Man--that's part of what I'm complaining about. But, when the Japaneses get me gas for $1.34 a gallon, I'll concede---don't think that will happen!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Pontiff said:
Jun 1, 2008 at 9:37 PMyou are an idiot emily. its called an example. and all you are complaining about is someone being able to do a better job than your team. the horsepower isn't "given" to toyota. toyota builds a better engine which leads to more horsepower. end of story. i don't see every toyota running up front so hey it must be because kyle is a good driver as well. good driver + good car = WINS and thats the bottom line
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Pontiff said:
Jun 4, 2008 at 1:58 PMfor all you conspiracy nuts read this. it might help you get over what you whining about. http://www.nascar.com/2008/news/opinion/06/04/dcaraviello.kybusch.toyota/index.html
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
Jun 5, 2008 at 10:36 PMGee, I thought I heard Rusty Wallace say on National T.V. that the other drivers very complaining asbout NAscar giving the Toyotasd more horsepower and he didn't know what the outcome of that would be. Guess you didn't hear that with your head in the sand. And Chris, I do know what an example is, but Worm and I have hashed before, and I think he understands the joke-you however are the idiot and the only thing worse than an idiot is one who thinks he knows everything. Go buy a Toyota and do not respond to this because I'm sure everyone else is tired of this S#@*!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Pontiff said:
Jun 6, 2008 at 6:31 PMyou're an idiot Emily. Rusty Wallace doesn't know what he's talking about
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMary Froehlich said:
Jun 9, 2008 at 9:41 AMI am neither a Gordon or Busch fan, but any driver has the right to race as hard as he possibly can. Busch needs to grow up. Ever since he was held back from cup racing because of his age, he seems determined to prove something. This past week's triple race debacle was evidence of that, and he failed miserably.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportvera black said:
Jun 9, 2008 at 9:21 PMThe HMS team has more class than cry baby kb will ever have -- he needs to grow up & quit whining like the spoiled brat that he is.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTina Martin said:
Jun 11, 2008 at 7:42 AMYou Jeff, Kyle always complains about everyone else and he himself does the same thing, so who does he think he is(Kyle), he shows know respect to any of the other drivers.........3 cheers for Jeff
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Mar 13, 2009 at 10:01 AMJEFF U SUCK!!!!!! I HOPE U R GETTING USED TO UR LOSING STREAK!!!!! UR WINNING IS OVER!!!!! IT WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!
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