Budweiser Shootout to feature top performers, not pole winners
By SceneDaily Staff
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
NASCAR’s preseason all-star-type event likely won’t have defending Daytona 500 champion Ryan Newman, two-time Cup champion Tony Stewart nor veteran Mark Martin in the field when it goes green to kick off the 2009 season at Daytona International Speedway.
The Budweiser Shootout has scrapped its eligibility requirements that competitors be either pole winners from the previous season or previous Shootout winners and will adopt a new format that will include the top six teams from each manufacturer in the final owner points.
“You want to keep it simple,” DIS President Robin Braig said. “We’ve watched the NBA All-Star Game, Major League Baseball and other sports try to select their participants, and it gets complicated. We just wanted it absolutely understandable, promotable [and] marketable.”
If the season ended today, Chevrolet drivers making the race would be Dale Earnhardt Jr., Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Burton, Kevin Harvick, Jeff Gordon and Casey Mears (in the Richard Childress Racing No. 07). The Dodges of Kasey Kahne, Kurt Busch, Elliott Sadler, Juan Pablo Montoya, Bobby Labonte and the eventual replacement in the No. 12 Penske Racing car of Ryan Newman would be in the field.
Ford’s representatives would be Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Matt Kenseth, David Ragan, Jamie McMurray and Travis Kvapil. Filling out Toyota’s roster would be Kyle Busch, Joey Logano (in the Joe Gibbs Racing No. 20), Denny Hamlin, Brian Vickers, David Reutimann and Michael Waltrip.
Newman and Stewart are moving to Stewart-Haas Racing next year and would not be among the six Chevrolet teams eligible for the event.
“[Newman’s missing] just comes with the territory,” said NASCAR Vice President of Competition Jim Hunter. “It wouldn’t necessarily happen, but there are circumstances where drivers change teams, teams change car makes. There are all sorts of possibilities.”
Budweiser used to sponsor NASCAR’s pole award, so tying in the pole winners into the event was a natural fit. But Coors now sponsors the NASCAR pole awards, and that at least enhanced discussions on whether to change the eligibility requirements.
“We had been talking about how to keep the Shootout fresh anyway,” said Anheuser-Busch Vice President of Global Media and Sports Marketing Tony Ponturo. “But I won’t kid you that obviously, with Coors having the pole winner, that created a faster dialogue about how to address it.”
Drivers who have won poles this year not currently in the top six among their manufacturers include Furniture Row Racing’s Joe Nemechek, Dale Earnhardt Inc.’s Paul Menard and Gillett Evernham Motorsports’ Patrick Carpentier and Newman.
Past winners of the event who are still at least active part time and won’t be eligible will be Stewart, Martin, Ken Schrader, Bill Elliott and Terry Labonte.
“If I were someone like Joe Nemechek or someone else who might be affected adversely, I wouldn’t be too happy about it,” Hunter said. “But change occurs, and this is a non-points event. This is a special event, so we’ll move forward with it.”
Hunter said NASCAR’s competition department would have to determine what would happen if a team eligible for the Budweiser Shootout changes manufacturers in the offseason.
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ANN SWEETING said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 1:36 PMWhy can't NASCAR leave things like the Bud Shootout alone. This race was started to reward the drivers of the past season who earned a pole. First they change the Winston to the All star race and now they want to mess with the Shootout. Keep it up NASCAR and you will lose all your fans that have been supporting NASCAR for 20 years or more. I for one am sick of Toyota winning constantly, I don't even bother watching anymore once I hear there is a Toyota in the lead. I am also sick of the favoritism being displayed for certain drivers. I usually go to at least 5 races a year, but I think next year it will be ZERO. The sanctioning body is ruining the sport.
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Aug 26, 2008 at 2:27 PMThey are changing things because they are not getting the sponsorship money from those people. You don't give someones company publicity without getting money from them first.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPeter Reiser said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 3:04 PMSTUPID
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDoris Townsend said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 3:06 PMI agree with Ann. Nascar is determined to ruin this sport by changing everything the fans love about it. There have been guys to win poles this year and the first thing out of their mouth was "I'm going to get into the Bud Shootout". Now we will have guys that are hardly ever mentioned just because they are in sixth place with their manufacturer. I think it is wrong to award them and not the pole winners.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAndrew Briscoe said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 3:17 PMWell, there goes the annual $500-$1000 trip to Daytona for the Friday campout, Saturday Shootout/ARCA race, and Sunday Qualifying.
Report as AbuseThanks NASCAR, you just ruined the only race in Florida I enjoy watching live/can afford to go to.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportwilliam barnes said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 3:18 PMthat's it hunter,just when i thought it couldn't get any worse,you go and f#$k things up even more!!unbelievable!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSunday Money said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 3:23 PMI wasn't sure if I was going to "Speed Week" for 2009, and now my mind has been made up. I will not be going.
Report as AbuseThis doesn't make any sense. I am getting less and less interested in NASCAR.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJM fan said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 4:26 PMUnbelievable. Nascar doesn't seem to care much about racing any more. Now it's all about "putting on a good show" for the fans and sponsors. I guess I'll be saving some money come February, too.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbeth emerson said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 4:48 PMI like their new format. I loved the old one but people the times they are changing.Nothing in life stays the same why should nascar. If you are like me I love the sport not all the drivers but you have to take the good with the bad. Go nascar.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChelsea said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 5:16 PMWell this is dumb. I was looking forward to Patrick being in it :(
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDennis Harcourt said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 5:43 PMUnbelievable, loving a race where a driver can get in because he ran one good lap. Now we get to see the best race teams from the year before go at it in a none points race. Thats racing at its best. I love the change.
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» Confirm Abuse Report4da88 said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 6:33 PMUh, I think this stinks. example: 1. By virtue of 'owner' pts Logano will be eligible to race in the shoot out, but Clint Bowyer going into a new car will not? Somehow I just don't see how this is fair. 2. There could be some teams with higher owner points not make it due to the limitation of 6 cars from each mfg. So this means the better car/driver may not necessarily make the shoot out. I may be confused, but this is the way I see it. Can someone tell me the advantage of the way NASCAR has set this up?
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJohn Stark said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 6:58 PMThis system rewards the team/car. I have never seen a team/car race without a driver.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportGregory Pope said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 7:01 PMI can see the conflict between Coors and Bud but I agree with 4da88 there will be better teams left out and that is not right. Their must be a better way.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportterrence bridges said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 8:12 PMwell there goes daytona! qualifying has been killed by the top 35. no matter where a car finishes in the 125s the cars with the most money will make the 500. now winning a pole has no meaning for anyone except for pit selection. with the racing killed by the "car of iroc" i guess i'll go to baha instead of florida. i wont need a camping spot in daytona. i may not get back in time for las vegas next year. THANKS NASCAR
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJohn Lockhart said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 8:13 PMWell,they had to change the format because it's no longer the Bud Pole Shootout!How could Bud reward drivers that won a pole for Coors? I like it,drivers and teams will have something to shoot for and try to stay in the top six.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportpatsi Wilbanks said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 8:46 PMBye Bye Nascar!! No more money from me either...enough is enough!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJohn Lockhart said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:05 PMCome on Patsi,I've read your comments before,your a NASCAR fan.You'll aways will be one. This thing they came up with will work.Remember what we thought of the CHASE when it first come out? Lets give it a chance,don't bail out now!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:13 PMNothing NASCAR has done, starting with changing the points system, seems as good to me. What does NASCAR do?---sit around scratching their heads, counting their money, and seeing how much they can mess things up! I guess I just don't like change for some things.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportFrank Pinto Jr said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:22 PMReally Nascar? At least make it for 2010 and don't kill the guys who won a pole this year...I mean just last week, Carl was excited after qualifying and said,"hey, we get in the Bud Shootout". A guy like Paul Menard or Joe Nemechek could use the exposure more. I mean Lograno hasn't even raced a car in Sprint, for crying out loud! Manufacturer's? Gimme a break!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportchris beard said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:44 PMSo NASCAR should reward teams most popular drivers,the teams who spend the most & sell the most swag.How does NASCAR reward it's fans? with watered down shows that are overpriced.Scrap the top 35 rule-fastest 43 run,scrap PCP.Look at ALL those empty seats NASCAR more in '09.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMichelle Trice said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:44 PMThis is ridiculous!!! Nascar just messing up one more thing! I will be surprised if the races next year get very good ratings, especially this race. I can't stand Carl Edwards but that is just not right to yank something away without any real warning. I agree with Mr. Pinto at least wait until 2010!! I am going to have a real hard time continuing to watch Nascar, it is just going down the drain.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJason Hubbard said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:48 PMSweet. All you guys that are leaving Nascar; we are waiting patiently for your Richmond and Bristol tickets! LOL!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportkathy crabtree said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:54 PMi always looked forward to watching the shootout but i won't bother this year. i am a big tony stewart fan and if tony's not in it, i'm not either. if it weren't for watching tony race i wouldn't bother watching the races anymore either. nascar's doing a good job of getting rid of fans. keep it up nascar and even watching our favorite driver won't keep us interested.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportM Little said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:56 PMWon't have to watch it since this coming year since Tony Stewart won't be in it. Will give me time to do other things. To Jason Hubbard -- tickets are available at Richmond right up until the day of the race now. I get e-mails all the time begging me to buy tickets since I have in the past. Would rather go to Martinsville -- less of a pain getting in and out of the track and all seats are good seats.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTed Hungler said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 9:59 PMI beleive NASCAR is just trying to chase away their fans. I don't understnd how you can have drivers like Mike Waltrip in the shootout but not Tony Stewart. It is just a joke what they are doing to stock car racing as we all knew it or grew up with. Since the joke at Indianapolis a month ago it has just gotten worse. I have not watched a race since being at Indy and have found much better things to do than watch NASCAR's version of professional wrestling.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRobin Zornes said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 10:26 PMThat is just stupid! The top...and it INCLUDES Michael Waltrip and leave out Stewart, Martin, Labonte. Totally insane.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 10:39 PMWOW. You guys actually think you are fans? You are whining more than some drivers do. If your a true RACE fan you will roll with the changes and everything will be fine.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMICHAEL LAEL said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 10:51 PMWHAT IS WRONG WITH NASCAR COT CARS STUPID RULES AND NOW CHANGE THE BUD SHOOTOUT FORMAT, THE DEATH OF NASCAR COMING TO TRACK REAL SOON. UNBELIEVABLE!SUPPORT LOCAL DIRT TRACK RACING!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMike Cope said:
Aug 26, 2008 at 11:10 PMRoll with the changes and everything will be fine??????????????
Report as AbuseSeems to me that is exactly why this country is in the shape it is in, NASCAR included. Everyone has a right to their opinion, until it is different from mine, that is a classic example of roll with the changes. There is no more right or wrong, just roll with the changes.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJayne Deere said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:54 AMHunter's last quote is insulting to those who were pole winners but not eligible under the new format. He sounds like a snotty prep school kid who won't let others join their exclusive club. I won't be watching the Shootout if great drivers like Stewart, Newman and Martin aren't racing as well as all the drivers who captured the pole this year yet aren't eligible. The Budweiser Shootout just became a big skunky keg of beer, so much for keeping it FRESH.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMark Koop said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 1:51 AMThey should change the All Star Race too. Perhaps only rookies should be eligible. Or only odd numbered cars can participate. I'm usually pretty open to new ideas but winning a pole has just lost a LOT of significance. Every time a driver wins his first pole of the year he talks about being in the shootout at Daytona. Budweiser and NASCAR really screwed things up!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjesse jesse Mcelroy said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 5:42 AMwe'll nascar just let me same more money,the week i was going to spend in challotte next year has just been cancelled.the 2 bristol races,the daytona race i was going to next year will be canceled also.i will still go to talladager only because the parties are real good.thank you nascar for screwing up the only sport that was still fun to watch.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportCliff Cherry said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 6:25 AM{sigh} I can't believe no one has pointed out that NASCAR is not responsible for the change; blame Coors for not electing to continue the pole-winner race. At least Bud is continuing to sponsor the event. My only alteration would have been to make it the Top 5 in each, since that's a more standard stat plus you would have 20 cars instead of 24, making it a more exclusive field. But whatever...
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» Confirm Abuse Report3web88 said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:27 AM"Budweiser Shootout to feature top performers..."
Report as AbuseMontoya, Labonte, Waltrip, Reutimann, Logano, McMurray, kvapil & Mears are "top performers" now?
As usual, NASCAR is diluting a part of it's history. This "race" is going to be nothing more than a pathetic sideshow featuring a bunch of drivers who DON'T deserve to be there. If they really want to make it different, they should let 43 car's in the field and distribute points dependent on their finish.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:35 AMSo Bud is not the pole sponsor. That means that something has to change. I think they made the wrong change too soon. NASCAR has a hand in everything that happens at a NASCAR event. To think that they did not influence this decision does not make sense. As far as qualifying goes, all that determines is pit position, since 35 drivers are guaranteed a starting place. The chase is another made-up gimmick to put more money in NASCAR's pockets. How I long for the old days of 3 day qualifying and having to race your way into a race, and having the best driver for 36 races be crowned the champion. Used to be you had 36 races a year that mattered, and drivers who ran like heck to win. Now they race for points and we are left with a 10 race season (that counts). I still love racing, and NASCAR has the best show, but they are sure working real hard to stink it up.
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Aug 27, 2008 at 8:21 AMFiasco! This is driven only by Bud $$$, not by any demand from the fans or dissatisfaction with the Shootout format.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDerek Sleeper said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 8:32 AMCome on guys - NASCAR doesn't have a lot to say about who qualifies for this race. Budwiser is putting up the 5Mil for the rights to the race and the purse - so, they get to make the rules. Pretty simple really.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTeri Jansen said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 8:35 AMThis is just one more nail in the coffin for us long time Nascar fans. We've tolerated alot of changes that really suck, The top 35, the Chase etc. But this will kill the season before it even starts. Why bother with the race at all.
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Aug 27, 2008 at 8:41 AMUnbelievable, veterans who worked their tails off to win a pole to qualify for the Shootout are now going to watch Joey Logano run his
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Aug 27, 2008 at 8:45 AMUnbelievable, veteran teams and drivers who worked their tails off to get a pole to qualify for the Shootout will now enjoy the pleasure of watching Joey Logano run his VERY FIRST Sprint Cup race in the new improved(?) format.
Report as AbuseThis is the only sport that cannot leave well enough alone. BTW, what happened to the "consistency" of the rules for Kyle Busch? Last year Edwards was fined and docked points for slamming into Junior after the race, Nascar considered it a SAFETY issue. Seems safety has slipped on the priority ladder this year.
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Aug 27, 2008 at 8:53 AMI think STUPID sums it up. Keep it up NASCAR and you'll totally discourage ALL the fans!
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Aug 27, 2008 at 8:55 AM"Top Performers?" Logano, Reutimann, Waltrip? Embarrassing. Another bone thrown Toyota's way.
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Aug 27, 2008 at 9:01 AMLet's see, an "all star" event featuring Casey Mears, David Ragan, Travis Kvapil, Joey Logano, Brian Vickers, David Reutimann and Michael Waltrip?!? They wanted to keep it simple but made it completely complicated by giving the top 6 of each manufacturer a slot in the race. What'd be simpler would be just to give the top 25 a slot in the race.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBob Sodetz said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 9:54 AMWhat the heck?!!!!! AB (wait, INBEV) can do what they want, but I agree with Jeff. I thought it was pretty simple the way it was. Since all the cars are practically the same with the COT, this must also have been presented as a way for the auto makers to gain some bragging rights "right off the bat" next year.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportEleanor Hackett said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:18 PMAt first I was extremely upset when I read this. I have been a Nascar fan since the late 1960's. I have seen many, many changes.
Report as AbuseI do understand that they want to feature the top performing cars from the previous years for each manufacturer. That is fine---but the problem is that it is not necessarily featuring the top drivers. I agree with the person who said they should maybe take the top 24 finishers instead. That way most of the manufacturer's would be included and we would get the top 24 drivers. I know either way my favorite driver, Tony Stewart will not be racing. But as a die hard race fan, I will still be watching. Guess it's in my blood.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportwilliam barnes said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 12:59 PMyeah,the good ol'days,thursday & friday qualifying,no 1 engine rule,no shock rule,no gear rule,no chase,where the the cars looked similar to their street version,oh yeah let's not forget NO RESTRICTOR PLATES.does anyone remember when the pit crews could use 3 air guns during a pit stop?think of how quick the stops would be now!
Report as Abuseyeah,the good ol' days when racin' was racin',and the fans were glad of it!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDarrell Driskell said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 1:01 PMWhat they should have done is have the top 24 drivers and anyone who won a pole for at least this year.. The fact they are not letting pole winners in tells me that Bud is trying to make the Coors light pole award irrelevent... Bud could've allowed it and still not mentioned coors in their promoting it, but of course your talking NASCAR here.. Someone probably said to them take it or leave it and all they see is green. Typical nascar dictatorship!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportwilliam barnes said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 1:04 PMoh,buy the way i apologize for my first post,i was having a bad day,so i'm sorry if i offended anyone.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChazzo Ozzahc said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 2:33 PMif anyone on here is a bristol ticket holder and is giving up on nascar , let me know...i want your tix!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPeter Reiser said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 3:38 PMAt least three drivers form each manufacture would be represented in the race if NASCAR stuck to the old system AND there are still twelve races and twelve polls to be won. Reutimann, Watltrip, and Kvapil and no Newman and Stewart. BS
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Aug 27, 2008 at 3:40 PMbraig=moron
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJ R Rogers said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 4:39 PMThat's right its about $$$$$$ from Budwiser, others and the TV Bucks... they don't care about the fans and figure there are two new fans to replace each single fan that quits... they want younger demographics for bigger Buck$... NASCAR does not care about the fans that got them to this point... we are replaceable.. This Sucks
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRonald Schwalbe said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 4:52 PMHow GREAT it would be if Tony could somehow come from behind and win the Cup -and THEN - The NASCAR CHAMPION would NOT be permitted to enter the shootout !
Report as AbuseMaybe THEN - the people who make these decisions would wake up !!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportdel brown said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 5:13 PMFrankly I never pay much to qualifying so I didn't even know Bud had stopped sponsoring the Pole Award I can understand changing the the way the field is set but NASCAR could have done a better job coming up with the criteria. As it currently stands it'll probably be Hendrick and RCR for Chevy, Roush and ??? for Ford, JGR and ??? for Toyota and ????? for Dodge (which doesn't seem to be doing very well overall). At least NASCAR could have included additional slots for active past Cup champions and Shootout winners if they don't otherwise meet the criteria. There's also probably going some cars being ran over as a couple of makes have a fairly wide spread between top and sixth place teams. Overall I guess NASCAR wasn't satisfied with messing up the Winston and even the Pit Crew Challenge.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRobert Wingert said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 7:03 PMThis is dumb. How does Logano and Waltrip get in or why should they.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportcindy matuse said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 8:15 PMThis makes NASCAR look even dumber. Why don't they just go ahead and announce whoever pays the most can go to victory lane, on down. I've followed this sport since I was a child, and after 33 years, it's about enough. It was bad enough that they stopped it as being one of this countries last American sports, but then they put in teams who aren't even winning into an all-star event. God only knows what they'll do to the other All-Star race. Maybe move it to Japan and have only Toyotas compete. And I agree with Ronald, I haven't pulled for Tony since he went into Gibbs' JapTrap, but I think it would be hilarious if he did win the championship and not be eligible for that race. And it would be even better if he followed it up in 2009 with a championship back in a Chevy.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBeth Hespe said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 9:40 PMThis is a very sad situation when popular drivers won't get into what was a fun event.
Report as AbuseI agree with Ronald and Cindy about the consequences of Tony Stewart winning the Championship this year - and not getting into the shootout.
I'd love to see the NASCAR PR machine deal with that.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportcb michael said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 10:37 PMI've missed a few races this year, even the vcr quit. Somebody was telling me something and i couldn't figure it out. I think I got now. anybody want to buy a gig collection of cars?. Big Bill France should roll over in his grave and show the current RULERS the proper side to kiss... I may go back to building custom cars on sundays, i get more relaxation and don't has a toyota on the property...
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
Aug 27, 2008 at 11:29 PMI've drunk enough Bud Light to float a battleship and had already contemplated changing brands after they sold out and went overseas---as #53 said---they have no respect for those who got them where they are. Well, since they are chabging the rules on the shootout, I may really change brands. realize I'm just a little fish in a big ocean, but it will help my feelings. They could have left this the same to rreward the pole winners this year. Just a bunch of BS!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDebi Watts said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 12:22 AMNASCAR is all about the money! Not the loyal supporters who have spent A WHOLE lot of money over the years to see THEIR driver race! Not a stupid 'team' - a driver!
Report as AbuseI for one, will NOT be watching the Shoot-out for the first time since it's conception! Keep it up NASCAR, at $1000.+ per race for true fans to enjoy the experience (travel included) I for one, am SICK of these constant changes to 'improve' the experience! Maybe I'll go to baseball or football!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportScott Simmons said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 5:59 AMSo now winnign the pole has absolutely no payoff. That's just friggin lousy
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» Confirm Abuse Reportanonymous said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 9:26 AMSo now the reason for winning the pole will be solely for pit selection.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJuniegirl said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 12:02 PMNASCAR!!! Please let us vote on this! Listen to your fans. Let us have a voice in something that we love like the Bud Shootout!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportchris welch said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 2:37 PMhow about just the chase drivers with two thirty lap segments? i really dont understand what all the fuss is about. its a non points race, and is forgotten after they leave daytona. its so irrelevant in fact, that everyone cried when junior won the shootout this year, saying its not really a race. so whats the big deal?
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMarketing Girl said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 6:37 PMThis is another test session for the power teams. It is also bringing to the forefront the deep divide between the haves and the have nots. I don't believe for a second that this was the work of Bud. There are so many other creative and exciting concepts they could have come up with that would have worked for not only the sponsor but the fan. They had indicated that they were going to bring back the core fan base, well this is not going to do it. As far as believeing that the younger crowd will stick with the sport, they can't afford the trips to the tracks or the merchandise - they will not be a permanent demographic especially with the lack luster racing that has been going on.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportemily bagwell said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 10:28 PMChris W., the big deal is that it's changing tradition---after fans have waited through the long, cold winter for NASCAR to come back, we are very excited about the Shootout. This is just another way for NASCAR to dull the excitement and anger the crowd.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjohn johnson said:
Aug 28, 2008 at 11:42 PMyou guys are"nt nascar fans or you would not be whining about every little thing that happens---most of you just want something to whine about---nascar is not making this --rule-- it is coors---its there money-- they can spend it how ever they want to--they don"t want to do the samething bud did---they are paying for it so they will do it there way---if it was your money---you would do it your way---nascar has nothing to do with it so quite being like kyle b. and whining everytime YOU don"t get it you way---you bunch of whine babys---------------------------
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» Confirm Abuse Reportchris welch said:
Aug 29, 2008 at 1:39 AMso everyone here is going to stop watching nascar because they changed the elgibility requirements of the "precious" bud shootout? its going to be all the same drivers after next year anyway once stewart and newman get points in 09.
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Aug 29, 2008 at 8:01 AMjust think we are able to see mike walltrip in the shootout uraaaaaaaaaa ha
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSnooky Lynch said:
Aug 29, 2008 at 8:20 AMThats the dumbiest thing since they put M. Waltrip, K. Wallace and that goofy kid that runs around asking stupid questions.I forgot his name thankfully. Mike and kenny are real nice guys, they are just out of place reporting..
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» Confirm Abuse ReportGregory Simon said:
Aug 29, 2008 at 10:20 AMWhat do we need with 2 All-Star races!! The Bud Shoot-out was created to give the Pole winners extra incentive. There is already an All-Star race at Lowes Motor speedway in May!! Why should NASCAR pick who is going to be in Shoot-out???
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTimothy Schultze said:
Sep 1, 2008 at 4:58 PMAnother dumb idea i heard from the talking heads was that all the fords would be blue all the Chevrolet's red all the dodges black and the Toyota's yellow LMAO stupid.
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