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Brian France on Sunday's Cup race channel shift: 'We didn't like it'
By Bob Pockrass - Associate Editor
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
NASCAR Chairman Brian France, pictured earlier this season, wasn't pleased when ABC shifted the end of Sunday’s Cup race to ESPN2.
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Like many fans, NASCAR Chairman Brian France wasn’t happy with ESPN’s decision to move the final 34 minutes of Sunday’s Sprint Cup race at Phoenix International Raceway from ABC to ESPN2.
ABC opted to keep its prime-time lineup intact in the East and Central time zones, where it televised “America’s Funniest Home Videos” instead of the end of the race.
“We didn’t like it,” France said Tuesday during a national teleconference with news media. “That was not what we had anticipated. But we have talked to them repeatedly in the last couple of days.
“There were lots of circumstances that they had to consider. I don’t have to agree with each one of those, but they had their own issues that they had to manage around. We, unfortunately, got the short end of that. We are working with them to hopefully eliminate that happening in the future.”
ABC/ESPN spokesman George McNeilly said Sunday that “ABC's entertainment viewers and NASCAR fans were both well served in a tough spot” after the race ran longer than expected, partially because of a 24-minute rain delay and an 18-minute red-flag period after an accident.
ABC, according to the network, earned a 4.6 overnight Nielsen rating during the 7 to 7:30 p.m. EST window for the race before switching to ESPN2. ABC earned a 3.8 overnight rating combined for "America's Funniest Home Videos" in the Eastern and Central time zones and the race in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.
ESPN2, which aired the conclusion of the race nationally instead of a replay of World Series of Poker, had a 3.3 cable rating, equivalent to a 2.9 network rating.
ABC is available in 112.8 million homes, while ESPN2 is in 97.6 million homes, according to ESPN.
“What’s important is ABC’s and ESPN’s and NASCAR’s – our interests are aligned,” France said. “That doesn’t mean that we always see eye to eye on every issue. They want to do what’s in the best interest of the NASCAR race fan, which they serve week in and week out in lots of different ways.
“They did not like the idea of having to pull off of ABC and operate the way they did on Sunday.”
Typically, NASCAR and the networks work with the tracks to find a starting time, and then the network attempts to build in some flex time at the end of the race for a postrace show or in case the race runs longer than usual.
“It is imperative that we work closely together with them for scheduling and to have other considerations in certain [situations], in this case, a red flag which took the event another 30 minutes or more out of a window that they had planned,” France said. “That [rain] is a very unusual thing in Arizona at this time of year, so that probably wasn’t anticipated.
“But the most important thing is, while we are not pleased with what happened on Sunday, our interests are very much aligned, and they do not want to do anything but the best coverage for our race fan.”
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| 11 | Carl Edwards | -520 |
| 12 | Brian Vickers | -666 |
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Nov 11, 2008 at 2:12 PMBrian:
Report as AbuseEvidently, ABC did not take in to consideration that not all viewers have either cable or satelite.
If it had been either football or any other sport they would not have changed to ESPN2.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDeb Jones said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 2:15 PMThat was crazy pull the race and put on of all shows "America's Funniest Home Videos" where the writing is terrible and humorless. Similar to the gentlemen that are commentating now. Bring back FOX!!!!!!!!!! I can't wait to hear DW say Boogity, Boogity Boogity,let's go racin boys!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportKeith Johnson said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 3:30 PMABC has been this wacky since wide world of sports. I knew this would happen and it will again.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRobert Porter said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 3:34 PMNASCAR and ABC, it's a third rate romance, high rent rendevous
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPat Andrews said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 3:40 PMIt would be ok to bring back Fox but would you please ask DW NOT to use boogity. It is old. I hated to see DW retire from racing but I do get tired of the boogity and all he did 10 years ago. Be more humble to be likable.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBecky Raudebaugh said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 3:49 PMNot everyone in the country has cable/sattelite TV NOR CAN THEY AFFORD IT in this economy! It was just pain rude of ABC to do that, and indeed they would not have done so for football, baseball, or basketball. ABC/ESPN doesn't deserve to have NASCAR if they are going to treat our sport with so little regard. Why couldn't they have sent it to on of their other "lesser utilized" sister stations to continue the race rather than moving it to a subscription service which not everyone has access to??
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPamela Johnson said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 3:52 PMMy understanding is that the NFL has a clause in their contract that prevents the networks from cutting away until the conclusion of the game. Nascar needs to have it in their contract. Granted this was even longer than usual between the rain and the red flags but Nascar is an unpredictable sport (well other than the 48 team being awesome! :) ) so they need to make sure there is more flexibility in the timing. Moving the start time (actual start time of the green flag) back just a bit closer to what it used to be even if it means cutting a bit of the pre race junk would help a lot to keep them from running into prime time.
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Nov 11, 2008 at 3:53 PMAvid Nascar fan,, fed up with ABC,, in the first place not allowing any news staff to wear an AMERICAN FLAG. It is because of this country that they are allowed to survive at all, and I will boycott anything that ABC, ever does, Please do not use them for NASCAR, This latest just another reason for everyone and ESPECIALLY NASCAR fans to boycot them further.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRobert Brundage said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 3:56 PMAn easy way to avoid this mess would to be revert to 1:00 or 2:00 PM EST starting times for all races.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRich Getz said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 3:56 PMWell Brian glad to see you taking a stand with the fans for a change. Now....about that pathetic looking car of today!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportCathy Rooks said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:05 PMI say ABC sucks and kick them to the curb and use another station!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportShirley Welborn said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:06 PMI am in complete agreement with Brian France because I did not like the switch of channels for the ending of the race either. I was not at home to view the race, but was recording it and when I got home and replayed it, I found AFV instead of the end of the race. I was very upset!!! My tv doesn't know when to change stations when this happens, and I was cheated out of being able to see Jimmie win the race. I have to record Sunday races quite often, and I hope this never happens again. And, I too am eager to hear DW say Boogity, Boogity again. I can't help it if others don't like him, but a lot of us do.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportGreg Barnett said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:08 PMABC....What else would you expect from a network owned by Disney. Send it back to FOX. Also I find it difficult to believe any nascar fan to dislike boogity, boogity, boogity. You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect, but "boogity" is part of the culture. I miss it. The vast majority of nascar fans I talk to miss it. Deal with it.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAmanda Hiatt said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:11 PMI can't stand when ESPN/ABC take over the coverage of the season. I like FOX the best and TNT isn't too bad now that Kyle Petty is one of the announcers for several races. But ESPN wastes so much time with pre-race junk. Cut all that out and start earlier.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJoe Kane said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:13 PMABC race coverage is lackluster including camera presentation of "the action". Every fan at the race loves the flyover...yet ABC gives more coverage to a golfball in flight during its tournament coverage. I have no idea how much money changes hands over their contract life (its all aout the money, isn't it?)but its not enough to accept the insult. They "slide" the network when they feel like it; guess they just didn't feel like it, did they.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJoe Kane said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:16 PMABC race coverage is lackluster including camera presentation of "the action". Every fan at the race loves the flyover...yet ABC gives more coverage to a golfball in flight during its tournament coverage. I have no idea how much money changes hands over their contract life (its all aout the money, isn't it?)but its not enough to accept the insult. They "slide" the network when they feel like it; guess they just didn't feel like it, did they.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportsuzie cobler said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:20 PMyes I think pulling the race off abc to espn was so unfair i don"t have cable and I wanted to see jimmie johnson go across the finish but if it would have been a ballgame they wouldn:t have pulled it off to another cahnnel I think nascar should not use abc no more suzie cobler
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMister Wynn said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:54 PMNASCAR is no more "unpredictable" than baseball, football, and basketball. All these sports can also go past the usual time limit into extra innings or overtime. I can't remember the last time I saw a network send a playoff game to ESPN or any other cable network channel.
Report as AbuseIt is simply that the suits at the network look down on NASCAR - and on NASCAR fans in general - and don't give the same level of importance to what they still think of as a good ol' boys sport.
Their disdain is palpable. They are happy to make the money with NASCAR but they probably figure, hell, there's only 36 laps left, we can get away with this. The only hope is that somehow Brian and his henchmen can get a better deal from a better network next round of negotiations.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportGregory Pope said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 4:55 PMThe only thing I ever watch on ABC is NASCAR. I have to watch on Direct TV. My local cable does not carry an ABC station. What does that tell you about ABC.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJohnny Rawls said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 5:03 PMSTART THE RACES EARLIER, Brian!!!!!!! Do away with all the hype and let's go racin'
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» Confirm Abuse ReportGeorgia Ross said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 5:08 PMGee, Brian, that was brilliant-"We didn't like it." Too bad you couldn't rake 'em over the coals for what they did BUT THAT WOULD TAKE THE BIG BUCKS OUT OF YOUR ALREADY SUPER-WEALTHY POCKETS. NASCAR is big money and the average fan that loves to support NASCAR is just that-AVERAGE. Guess what gang--big money wins! Oh, for good old racing again!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportAnonymous said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 5:25 PMThe bottom line is, no matter what spin is put on it by network executives, our sport was treated badly,in a way they wouldn't dare treat any of the other major league sports,and we're now being asked to think,well they really are thinking about us NASCAR fans.Sorry,I personnaly don't buy it,but as in most cases as a fan there is nothing I can do but take it on the chin,and next race on ABC tune in to the radio broadcast with the live leaderboard on NASCAR.com.Jeff Schroader,Owensboro,KY
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» Confirm Abuse ReportCindy Schultz said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 5:36 PMABC wouldn't have changed channels on any other major sport. We missed the end of the race because we are at church from 6-9pm on Sunday nights. We were recording the race on our DVR and of course, the DVR didn't know to change channels. The 2nd to last race of the season and we miss the end of the race. ABC deserves to lose their NASCAR contract over this decision. Of all things--to change channels for AFV is ridiculous. That show is a waste of space with no value whatsoever. NASCAR needs to check the wording of their network contracts to make sure this doesn't happen again.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMissy Thomas said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 5:43 PMI have the perfect solution. SPEED has the best broadcasters on TV when it comes to Motor Sports. Just give them everything. Quals, practice and all the races including Truck Series and Nationwide.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMark Page said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 5:54 PMI have to agree with Missy...SPEED is the best. Give everything to them!!! They would not abuse the race fans like ABC/ESPN did last week. But, sadly, it will never happen.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportdave mallas said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 5:56 PMStarting the race at noon ( like almost all sports, or local tracks)would solve the problem. The only good anouncer today is Alan Bestwick.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSherry Walker said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 6:10 PMI don't like the races being on ABC, and I certainly didn't like that they pulled NASCAR to adhere to their "strict programming guidelines."
Report as AbuseMy TiVo didn't get the end of the race either, and I am a die hard #48 fan, and guess what??? I missed it. Gee, thanks ABC...I refuse to watch that channel any other time during the year except for the few weeks when NASCAR happens to be on!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportKen Matthews said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 6:18 PMThe DAMAGE is done, bring on the PAY PER VIEW
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Nov 11, 2008 at 6:21 PMDon't blame ABC. This is NASCAR's fault. ALL Sunday races should begin at 11am Eastern unless it is a prime time event. Or, all races should be a prime time event (under the lights!!).
Report as AbuseABC shouldn't air any races, anyway. They should all be on ESPN. Send Punch back to the pits, and bring back Bob Jenkins.
Fox...should *never* be allowed to air another race until it replaces its entire on-air broadcast team. Joy, McReynolds and especially Waltrip need to go. Get some people who can speak english, don't sing, don't self-promote their careers every weekend, and do not say stupid things like "the eye of the storm". Geez, the eye of any hurricane is the calmest part of the storm, and doesn't accurately represent the fight for position during a race. "Tighten them belts, Darrell"...good god, the guy hasn't driven a race car in years, and he's not in one during the race. Get with real world, Larry and Darrell.
And what is the deal with "Digger" Cam? Honestly, when I watch a race, I don't care to see the cars whiz by so fast that you can't tell who is who. Speedshots and ground shots are just stunts that really serve no purpose. Bumper and in-car cams are a better perspective to show the fans.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportWerner Boehmert said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 6:25 PMi'm all for starting the race sooner...btw...we have a late start this week again...i can do without DW's boogity-boogity...it's become a joke with the gang i go to Bristol with...dump Dr Jerry...put back Allen Bestwick...he did a great job before...sure wish BP was still with us...
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRonald Schwalbe said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 6:42 PMHey Brian - it was YOUR fault they switched stations !!!! - YOU are the one who decided to patronize all the west coast fans who don't support racing so the entire rest of the country has to wait until THEY are ready to watch !
Report as AbuseYOU approved the late starts -which ALSO now puts drivers in danger because of the setting son at so many tracks - Safety OBVIOUSLY takes a back seat to possible ratings !!!!
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Nov 11, 2008 at 6:57 PMI'm all for bringing NASCAR back to FOX...DW's "boogity, boogity, boogity, let's go racing boys" is as traditional as gentlemen, start your engines. We love it......
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTerry Troop said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 7:20 PMWas it my imagination or were there way fewer commercials after the switch to ESPN2? I didn't like the switch either, fortunately I was in the room when they made the announcement. I agree with everyone that stated START AT 1PM Eastern Time like it always was!
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Nov 11, 2008 at 7:33 PM"Boogity" is the exact reason people profile NASCAR as a hick sport and its fans as hicks. I hate it. If NASCAR wants to change it's image it needs to make sure more literate people like Brad Daugherty are in the booth and the Darryl Waltrips are OUT. As for ABC, their coverage sucks. Fox is much preferable, sans DW, and aside from the fact that Daugherty works for ABC/ESPN...the restarts on Fox are the best though, with the "Crank it up" thing and surround sound my house is rumbling
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRonald Schwalbe said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 7:35 PMI went to Dover for eighteen consecutive years - - It was always a 12:05 Green flag !!! Not any more - -
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBecky Deline said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 7:48 PMI think what happened was the one of the stupidest things I have ever seen. I think ABC does a bad job anyways (but then again I think Fox does a bad job also). There is absolutely no excuse for what ABC did and I don't believe for a minute that Nascar wasn't in on it. They have a say in everything. Hey Brian, if you're trying to find another way to drive fans away besides the boring races and high ticket prices, Nascar and ABC/ESPN has done.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPat Schwald said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 7:54 PMI dont like ABC,what happend Sunday was just one thing. I dont like that they talk about football game scores or when they will be on TV..while the race is on ..if I wanted to know about football,basket ball or any other sport I'd watch them not Nascar. Also why do all the races on ABC start soooo late? It's all most 4pm before the start here on T.V.
Report as Abuse(eastern time) Time to get rid of ABC and stay with ESPN2 or why not Speed. I think most people have cable or dish. Is NASCAR trying to pi-- off all the race fans.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPat Schwald said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 7:54 PMI dont like ABC,what happend Sunday was just one thing. I dont like that they talk about football game scores or when they will be on TV..while the race is on ..if I wanted to know about football,basket ball or any other sport I'd watch them not Nascar. Also why do all the races on ABC start soooo late? It's all most 4pm before the start here on T.V.
Report as Abuse(eastern time) Time to get rid of ABC and stay with ESPN2 or why not Speed. I think most people have cable or dish. Is NASCAR trying to pi-- off all the race fans.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBrenda Thompson said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 8:00 PMYou go, Brian--Nascar fans deserve at least as much as other sports fans, it was a total 'diss'. Think they'd cut into a football, baseball, basketball, or even a golf game, for that matter, and risk thousands of people going beserk when they couldn't see who in the heck finally won after watching for 4 hours?? ABC, you STINK!!! What were you thinking?
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» Confirm Abuse ReportPam Smith said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 8:16 PMI have never liked the race coverage when it goes to ESPN/ABC. It sucks! The commentators talk down to all of the NASCAR fans like we all have an average IQ of 70 or less because we like racing. Then they have the bimbos in their little firesuits like the racers who have no clue what they are talking about, unlike Wendy Venturini on Speed Channel. I can't wait for it to go back to FOX. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if ABC never carried another NASCAR race! I agree if it had been football, ABC would have carried it to the bitter end. But God forbid. we show all of one of the most popular sports on ABC. We had to watch the very scholarly home video program. Luckily I do have ESPN 2 on my TV. For once, Brian France did stand up for the racing fans even if it was in a weak sort of way.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportCarol Hohman said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 8:21 PMstart races earlier and for one if i had recorded that race it would of been a waste of tape keep ABC and ESPN but bring back Bob Jenkins and replace ole D W with him DW needs some of that 200 mph duct tape on his mouth or ego at times so does Hammond i think in one other sport they switch to a movie and i can not rememeber what network it was on but that network has had nothing but grief ever since that happened I don't see ABC doing that again ever or at least lets hope not and Brian are you listening to us fans? you better start or your going to loose the fans you got more and more money is getting tight and more money will be needed for other things then racing so you better wake uo and make us fans happy!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBecky Nolan said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 8:24 PMI for one (looks like the only one) happen to like having the retired drivers as commentators. They know what they are talking about unlike some of the other guys that never drove a race car or worked in a pit crew or garage. Furthermore I resent those that have a problem with this being a hick sport. Guess what?? I'm a hick (prefer the term redneck) and proud of it!!!! I do agree that ABC pulled a big boo-boo by switching to ESPN2, lots of folks don't have the upper tiers of cable or sat and couldn't watch the end. As for putting all the races on SPEED those same folks would run into the problem of not being able to watch at all. When I used to work Sundays I couldn't watch all the races at work as we only had basic cable so I could only watch when the races were aired on FOX or ABC. Bummer!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbobby dee said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 8:28 PMWhen ABC comes on the air, the cars should already be on the track. If they want 1.5 hours of pre-race, that should be on ESPN. I lived out west years ago, the VCR would start when I was still in church. No problem. 1 pm eastern should be the time for all day races.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportKaren said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 8:36 PMIt's typical, NASCAR always gets the short end of the stick. I know a lot of people who have ABC and not ESPN who enjoy watching the race. I feel bad for them to have missed the end of the race. This is just one more reason for us to go back to NASCAR on Fox. Fox always put live NASCAR races before reruns of sitcoms.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTim Fox said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 9:31 PMLive sporting event with millions of viewers or funny videos? Derrrrrrrrrrrrr
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTOM KRIEGEL said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 10:34 PMThis is a fine example of what ABC thinks of NASCAR. Take ABC out of the loop next year and let FOX have it back!!!!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSharon Davis said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 10:42 PMABC and ESPN have been a real dis appointment, they are so boring, except Allen, with their coverage of the sport. It's good
Report as Abusethey start the season with FOX, if they don't they will lose many fans, They get it started so it is interesting, wish they could do it for the entire season. At least we have Fox for practice and quailfying, part of the time. Miss DW and Mike and thier knowledge thay make it interesting.
Looking forward to having Fox back in Feb. wish it would be for the entire season.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSharon Davis said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 10:46 PMABC and ESPN have been a real dis appointment, they are so boring, except Allen, with their coverage of the sport. It's good
Report as Abusethey start the season with FOX, if they don't they will lose many fans, They get it started so it is interesting, wish they could do it for the entire season. At least we have Fox for practice and quilifying, part of the time. Miss DW and Mike and thier knowledge thay make it interesting.
Looking forward to having Fox back in Feb. wish it would be for the entire season.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDwight Paulus said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 11:54 PMI've got basic cable, so I don't get all of the "Fancy" channels. But we used to be able to get some of these races on the internet. When ABC had control, you get the "odd" races on ESPN 360. But even with this last minute switch, they were doing replays of college football on all of their channels.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMichael Petrose said:
Nov 11, 2008 at 11:55 PMGive the races to the networks with the commitment, that would be FOX and TNT. They also have the best commentators, the best prerace shows and the best coverage. Sorry ESPN, there is a reason why you were dropped years ago. You are stale. Jerry Punch vs. Mike Joy. Joy wins by a landslide...not even close. Get with it NASCAR. Do your TV fans a favor and get rid of ESPN/ABC!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJozef Colomy said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 12:20 AMWhat about NBC again? They don't have football, maybe when football season starts move from Fox to NBC instead of ABC?
Report as AbuseAnd Becky I agree with having retired drivers commentating, but not Darryl Waltrip. He likes the sound of his own voice more than the sound of those V8's roaring and something's wrong with that. And I appreciate your redneck (I fixed it :P) pride, but NASCAR really does have an image problem and having DW going "Boogity boogity boys" is going to make people think he's inciting a Klan riot rather than starting an auto-race...trust me, I'm a die-hard NASCAR fan, but here in Southern Cali I'm almost embarrassed to advertise it (other than my Robby gear!) because I'm always getting called a hick or told I watch a hick-sport. NASCAR needs to change that image if they want to ever broaden their fanbase, plain and simple.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMelody Bryant said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 12:59 AMI agree that Speed Channel is the best one to cover the races. We turn to it after a race for more details anyway. I am a #48 fan, and watched Jimmie from rookie up to his Championships! Maybe people think he is getting 'big headed' because he's so competitive. If a driver wants to succeed, I think they really have to believe in themself, and their team....and the team has to believe in the driver. He's grown a lot and earned respect. Imagine the stress teams are under. I try not to 'dislike' any driver. I'd love to get to attend an actual race sometime. Will my life change if Jimmie wins or doesn't? No. In life, we have to put these things in perspective. Good luck Jimmie, and God bless you and Chandra. Best wishes to all the Nascar Family of Racers - a sport which shows our youth the real meaning of teamwork.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportjust me said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 1:21 AMTake it away from ABC.
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Nov 12, 2008 at 1:50 AMi also hate the boogitty but my little 5 year old niece loves it and she waits to hear dw say it every sunday and then we will sit down and watch the race (she even utters the word every race day )
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» Confirm Abuse ReportSylvia Epperly said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 1:58 AMwhat is funnier 'AMER MFV" or NASCAR???
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMichelle Trice said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 2:19 AMI can't wait to have Fox back with Nascar! At least they seem to appreciate the Nascar population. I can't wait to hear DW say boogity, boogity, boogity it is like an adrenaline rush to hear him say it and watch the drivers put the petal to the metal! Just not the same when its not said. Get rid of ABC they stink!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJeff said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 5:23 AMNo ABC, no pay per view, Fox would be okay but I'm sick of "Boogity, boogity, boogity"
Report as AbuseIt got old real quick. Maybe for the Daytona 500,since it's the first race of the season, but no more after that.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportChris Aurit said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 5:40 AMYes, ABC coverage is weak, but this debacle rests at the feet of Brian France and the incompetent attorneys who didn't write the "no flipping" clause in the contract. On the other hand, maybe the "no flipping" clause would have reduced the value of the TV contract and Brian France has a lot of boat payments that are more important than the fans.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMarsha Armbrust said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 6:02 AMI am very much in agreement with several other Nascar fans. ABC is the worst and I can't believe that they would move the race. As I have said, on numerous other occasions, if it was football, this would never have happened. I have had to miss 60 minutes and The Amazing Race because of football OT and was none to pleased. My favorite sport is Nascar and I never miss a race. I always tape them as well so that I can rewatch them later. I happened to be lucky enough to have turned back to ABC just at the time they announced that the end of the race was going to go to ESPN2 or I would have been in a fit to have missed the final last laps. I really have a hard time beliving that anyone would have been tooo upset if they had to mis AFV to see the end of a history making race. Get rid of ABC and all of their way too much prerace hooplah. I still suggest that all of the races go to the speed channel, since that is the only channel totally devoted to racing.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRoger Palmer said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 6:25 AMOK, it's time to drop ABC and for NASCAR to buy SPEED and change the name to TNN, THE NASCAR NETWORK, and have all of the race coverage in one place.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRoland H. Archambault Jr. said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 7:58 AMI like all the Pre Race shows, DW's Boogity, Boogity, Boogity and everything else NASCAR! The Sport which a lot of people do not care to call a Sport, ABC/ESPN and everyone else that wants in on the production and $$$$$$ of NASCAR every weekend. Regardless of all the extracurricular activities have nothing to do with what happened! I say leave everything as it WAS, cut ABC's programming and find a station that WANTS NASCAR and it's Millions of Fans! This is about the network, not pre race, not Darrell Waltrip, nothing else but how much the network cares about the S-P-O-R-T and the money it brings in from it, which appears to be that none of them care! Go back to a 1:00pm start time, regardless of what network it is on and allow it to run it's course, even if that means starting any other shows later! Almost 95% of Sunday Evening programming is surrounded by Katie Curic and her recap of the previous weeks News and everything else takes a back seat! You think for one minute that they would interupt MS Curic's show for just one second? No way, everything else is backed up regardless of what time they will finally come on! I have seen shows on Sunday Evening start as much as 45 minutes late just so MS Curic's show can run it's entire course, a RECAP of NEWS from the previous week, which EVERYONE has already seen a dozen times! Allow NASCAR to run it's course also! It is the Fans that set the tone of when a show starts, stops, commercials and FINISHES! NASCAR has the most in attendance Fans, more then BaseBall, Football, BasketBall, any other sport! We should set the tone, not the Network! Thanx from a New England "Red Neck"! :}~
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» Confirm Abuse Reportgwen thompson said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 8:18 AMLETS GET BACK TO FOX. ITS MUCH BETTER. ABC nuh!!!!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBillie Brooks said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 8:19 AMI dont think going to Speed, TNT or ESPN is the answer, these are all "upper channel" stations, and in today's economy lots of folks have gone to just "basic" cable and these 3 are not on basic, go back to FOX, but get rid of Waltrip and the rest of that gang, they really do make NASCAR sound like a "hick" sport!!
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» Confirm Abuse Reportbeth emerson said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 8:28 AMI for one dont see what the big deal is about them changing the station. I know some people may not have the channels but that is not the fault of nascar or abc. Stop being cry babies and change the channel.As far as DW goes and boogity,boogity.boogity that is a part of nascar and I for one miss it and look forward to it again.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportDebbie Webb said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 9:21 AMWhy negotiate and pay big bucks to air a show, when you could really care less about whether people see it? The thing is ESPN does this all the time. Just like the Nationwide series. They wanted exclusive rights to air it, but there have been times when I have had to watch it on 3 different channels. That is really ridiculous. And what was so important about AFV when they are all reruns? And it wasn't like they couldn't show it at a later time. If you can't carry the entire race, no matter what time it goes off, then let someone else air it. And, why is it they never do that to a football game?
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» Confirm Abuse ReportJames Curci said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 9:28 AMMust not be a very good contract there Brian for ABC to pull a "HEIDI". In 1967 NBC didn't broadcast the end of a New York Jets game in favor of showing the scheduled movie "Heidi", and viewers missed Joe Namath pull off a come from behind win. The resulting furor of fans made sure it would never happen again.
Report as AbuseWe as NASCAR fans need to flood ABC with complaints about this bad move Sunday on their part.
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» Confirm Abuse Reportsue larson said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 10:34 AM"Hick, Redneck" Who cares! NASCAR
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» Confirm Abuse ReportBillie Brooks said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 12:16 PMOn the subject of commentators, DW,McReynolds, etc, when they become too obnoxous, which is way too often, I mute my TV and listen to MRN Radio, much better coverage from those guys!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportMissy Thomas said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 5:39 PMBeth, I for one schedule my Sunday's around what time the races come on but a lot of people can't do that and either tape it or TIVO it. That is my main gripe.
Report as AbuseBecky, I am with you, Redneck woman through and through and proud of it!!!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportGladys Bedwell said:
Nov 12, 2008 at 9:57 PMStarting the race earlier really doesn't matter when it comes to ABC. They allot so many hours and if it goes past that they are out of there. I remember a couple years ago the race ran long and they wouldn't stay on long enough to interview the winner (Tony Stewart). They broke for the evening news.
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» Confirm Abuse ReportTracy McKay said:
Nov 13, 2008 at 6:39 PMI don't like when the announcers will all of a sudden start promoting an episode of another ABC show right in the midst of announcing the race!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportRonald Schwalbe said:
Nov 14, 2008 at 9:02 AMSorry James -In the HEIDI game - it was the RAIDERS who scored twice in a matter of seconds to defeat the Jets. I still have the smashed radio from that day !!!
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» Confirm Abuse ReportANDY GRAY said:
Nov 15, 2008 at 12:00 AMWe are stuck with the current TV contract until the end of 2014.
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