Art Weinstein: Dale Earnhardt Jr. will be OK, but his fans are in for tough times

By Art Weinstein - Associate Editor
Friday, August 14, 2009
Hendrick Motorsports driver Dale Earnhardt Jr. signs autographs for fans at Pocono Raceway. (Sam Cranston / NASCAR Scene)

Hendrick Motorsports driver Dale Earnhardt Jr. signs autographs for fans at Pocono Raceway.

Sam Cranston
NASCAR Scene

COMMENTARY

If this isn’t rock bottom for Dale Earnhardt Jr., he’s got to be close.

After his 39th-place finish at Watkins Glen, the sport’s most popular driver stands 25th in the Sprint Cup standings. To put that in perspective, he is closer in terms of points scored this year to go-or-go-home driver Scott Speed (Junior is 569 points ahead of him) than he is to 12th-place Chase contender Matt Kenseth (Junior’s 577 points behind him).

That’s certainly not what anyone expected from a driver with Earnhardt Jr.’s background, now in his second year with the sport’s most powerful team. Incredibly, things have gotten even more dismal since team owner Rick Hendrick separated Earnhardt Jr. and his cousin and longtime crew chief, Tony Eury Jr. In the 10 races since, Earnhardt Jr. has yet to finish in the top 10, and has an average finish of 24.9.

Can Earnhardt Jr. rebound next year and look more like the Junior of old, instead of an old Junior? I think he will be improved, maybe win a race and possibly even make the Chase. He could possibly do that again the next couple of years. But that’s pretty much the upside. I seriously doubt we’ll see Junior consistently winning races and challenging for championships again. He’ll be 35 in October, an age when some drivers’ best years are starting to fade in the rearview mirror. Yes, his father, Dale Earnhardt, won six of his seven NASCAR Cup championships after age 35. Junior isn’t a threat to match that feat.

If Earnhardt Jr.’s best days are behind him, he’s got nothing to be ashamed about. He’s already had a hall of fame career, with better stats than many drivers who have been enshrined through the years. He’s earned tens of millions of dollars during his career, and based on his name and popularity alone should be able to continue raking in cash for years after his retirement, whether through endorsements, team ownership or business ventures.

So Junior’s going to be just fine, no matter what. The bad news? Some of his fans might not be OK. Some of them seem delusional at this point, and if he continues to struggle, those fans could really suffer.

Here at SceneDaily.com and NASCAR Scene, we get letters and emails almost daily from Earnhardt Jr. fans who are absolutely convinced that their favorite driver would be battling for a championship this year, “if only team owner Rick Hendrick wasn’t giving all the good stuff to Jimmie Johnson, Jeff Gordon and Mark Martin.”

“Why does Hendrick want Junior to fail?” some of these fans ask.

These people are completely serious. It’s frightening to think some of them may be voting in elections. One could even be driving the car next to you on the interstate. Frankly, I’d rather take my chances driving beside someone who’s text messaging with one hand and doing tequila shots with the other.

Other fans blame NASCAR – for introducing the car of tomorrow – for Junior’s woes. Still others blame Toyota, for having an unfair advantage over Chevrolets. (Funny, that “advantage” hasn’t hurt Chevrolet drivers Tony Stewart, Johnson, Gordon, Martin, Ryan Newman and Juan Pablo Montoya – who hold down six of the top 11 spots in the Sprint Cup standings).

Junior has one of the most ardent fan bases of any athlete, in any sport. It’s been a great ride for Junior Nation, as their favorite driver
has won many races and has carried on his father’s legacy.

Now, one has to wonder how some of these diehard fans will cope as their favorite driver progresses on the downside of his career.

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  1. 1
    cmwel2000 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 9:34 AM

    the downside of his career? wow. i guess jeff gordon and tony stewart are washed up too? how about mark martin? he is 34 years old, hardly an old man. he will be back. of all people, you NASCAR journalists should know this sport is very unpredictable and drivers careers are often streaky. drivers are on top one year and then the next, they wont even win a race (carl edwards). once they get his fleet of cars updated, and some much better luck, i think we will see some big improvements. he needs to find his confidence on the track that he used to have. he has become more of a push over on track than mark martin and thats sad. when other drivers are coming up on him, they see him as an easy pass or position. that has to change. he lets people go constantly trying to be respectful. heck with that strategy, get up on the wheel and dig. all of that comes with the lack of confidence. he needs to string together a few great runs, and i think we'll see a change in him.

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    KyBuschH8ter said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 9:42 AM

    Junior may be struggling this year, but he is still taking care of his fans. A prime example is "Dale Jr.'s Great Giveaway". It's a promo where he is giving away over 60 really awesome prizes. Me and all my nascar friends have signed up for it. i don't see other drivers doing that stuff for their fans.

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    BUSCH18FAN said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM

    MAYBE HE CAN WRITE A COOKBOOK LIKE HIS GRANNY. HENDRICK COULD CARE LESS IF HE WINS AS LONG AS HE IS COLLECTING THOSE SPONSOR DOLLARS. IF HE AINT WINNING THAT'S ALL THE LESS HENDRICK HAS TO PAY HIM. LOOK FOR HIM TO KEEP GOIN BACKWARDS.

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    Carol-88-fan said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 9:54 AM

    I don't think I've ever called anyone on here an idiot before but Weinstein you are one. I don't know if Jr will ever win a championship, no one does, but to say he's to old is beyond stupid. That means that Stewart, Biffle, J.Gordon, Johnson, Harvick and Kenseth may as well give up. Kurt, Ryan,and Truex had better get it done soon because they are closing in on being to old.This Jr fan isn't blaming anyone for the problems and I still and always will believe in and support Jr.So call me delusional.

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    BUSCH18FAN said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 9:56 AM

    WOW, HE IS WORTH MILLIONS, WHATS HE GIVING AWAY, FREE AUTOGRAPHS???

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    Juststop said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    As much as you people want to pretend and try to convince yourselves that he still has any relevance and that he will “come back”...... he’s not going to. He is no better than the most average of the middle pack runners. He is not an A list driver, will never be a driver of A list caliber and for all of you to keep telling each other otherwise is just pathetic and sad. And embarrassing.

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    cggapp said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    sounds like busch18 is jealous of Jr.s "millions". Junior will be fine. I know he is getting ancient along with Jeff, harvick and others. As they have not been running as well this year I guess they are pretty much washed up also. Get a life.

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    Carol-88-fan said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM

    JUSTSTOP, If it's embarrassing, no ones forcing you to read it.

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    Short-Track said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    Don't even exert your energy or time into responding to these shickenchit comments from a bozo trash talking on an opposing driver's article.Jr.'s done with Kyle and i'm done with him as well.If he don't make the chase the one's who really love him(the media)will be done with him as well.Where's Kyle's "Great Giveaway"?Oh that's right, they can't even give away his merch.

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    osbornk said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM

    Jr. appears to be a very unhappy person in interviews. He has impossible expections to live up to without the ability or drive to do it. He will have fans regardless of how well he drives because blind loyalty is not logical.

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    dd88 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 12:40 PM

    Wow, Art. I think you are the one delusional or just wanting hits on your article writing about Dale Junior. If 35 years of age is down hill slide
    you better look at the ages of drivers in the top 12. Tell Stewart, Johnson, Gordon, Biffle,Montoya, Kenneth, and Mark Martin. They are all 30+ and the rest of the top 12 are closer to 30 than 20.
    Dale Junior is having the worst year of his career. Get over it and leave Dale Junior's fans alone. We're coping quite well. Besides if he never won another race I will always be his fan.
    That's kind of what fandom is to me. You pick your favorite for many reasons. Some of us just really like the man as well as his racing.
    Maybe you just do not get that. Always fan of #88.

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    dale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 12:41 PM

    blind loyalties??????????

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    mom said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    In answer to your last question, we will be with him until they put us in the box. And that's a fact Art. We're not changing drivers.

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    sundaemunny said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    Once again the 'media' assumes that only if a driver wins can he have fans...or that their fans will continue to be fans. Ever heard of the Chicago Cubs? Even the detroit Lions have fans, for heaven's sake! If the only standard used was how many wins one had in a season, several drivers would be in trouble. Fans support a driver for many reasons, some of which may have nothing to do with their on track results. I'm sure that Junior and his many fans will somehow struggle thru the bad times and be just fine.

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    Dyannah said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 2:34 PM

    Given the number of Dale Jr. articles out today, It is obviously a slow news day. Jr. Nation has their pick of articles to read: . . . confidence in new crew chief, . . . double-file restarts makes races better, . . . changes needed with the new model Cup car, . . . JR Motorsports' driver for next year, and the most ridiculous . . . how some of Jr. Nation will have to adjust when Dale Jr. is on the downside of his career. When there are drivers competing anywhere from 50 to 69 + years of age, I don't think Jr. Nation needs to start worrying anytime soon about how many more years Dale Jr. will be in a race car. And for this fan, I am confident that when he finally stops driving, his involvement with racing won't cease and my admiration, loyalty, and support will still be appreciated.

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    iusewd40 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 3:33 PM

    Maybe he should get a Girlfriend---Yup, a Female.

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    bayougal said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 3:39 PM

    I agree with IUSEWD40. He does not seem to be happy with his personal life and it seems to reflect on his racing career. He needs someone to share his life with and maybe everything else will fall into place.

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    dale said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 4:07 PM

    Art, you nailed it with this comment: "Some of his fans might not be OK. Some of them seem delusional at this point..."

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    ajrottie421 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 4:10 PM

    I am speaking for Jr. fan everywhere - we are JR NATION and we will stick by our driver through the tough times and the good times - that's what true fans do. Jr. is not washed up - he WILL win more races and he WILL win championships. And yes I am one of those "crazy" fans that think Hendrick may have just brought on Jr. for his popularity to make more money for himself. Oh, and what is the age where reporters are done with their career?? For you, hopefully soon!

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    jgwjets said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 4:42 PM

    It's not Juniors age that's at fault for his downfall, it's talent. He makes mistakes on the track and in the pits. He hasn't adjusted to the COT and young drivers are passing him by. He might be a great guy but there are, as of now, 24 better drivers.

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    SheilaLovesNASCAR said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 4:45 PM

    If I'm reading this right, you become a fan of someone because they are winning all the time. But when they have a bad year, you are no longer their fan? I don't think it works that way. If it did, everyone should be a Jimmy Johnson fan. And we aren't all JJ fans. I liked Jr. in the Busch Series. He's not my favorite, but I sure do like seeing him do good. My favorite was Dale Jarrett. And I stuck with him until he retired at age 49. He won a Championship, but I still bought 44 stuff, even though he wasn't winning. You pick a driver and stick with him. Through it all. That's what a fan is. And you can't tell a fan who they should go for. Or to drop him when he isn't doing well. That's why you call yourself a fan.

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    dale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 4:56 PM

    dale jr has shown he has the talent

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    ipopakeg43293388 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM

    If a certain someone think's JR. is on the down side,I wonder if he was doing Tequila Shot's while he was writing this story? I will call Mark Martin and tell him to come on up and visit me for awhile! No sense in going to the track with 50yrs. + on him! I wonder how he will take it, being so old and washed up! Ron Hornaday is a fishing fool(but old) so he will want to come also! Harvick should be able to read the writing on the wall,if he could just find his speck's! Got to help him in and out of the car you know! What a crock!!! Good thing Dale SR.Petty,Cale,David Pearson,etc. was'nt around to read this article!

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    GM3Amp88 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    Dale Jr. fan forever, no matter what.

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    jarautoracing said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 5:33 PM

    In my opinion he is at the track to have fun. Winning to him really doesn't mean much when your rich.

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    SheilaLovesNASCAR said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 5:40 PM

    Jr. fans love him. And he loves them. Or maybe this article is really about Kyle. He has fans now, or at least last year, when he was winning. But will they still be his fans when he crashes himself out every race? Jr. is a talented driver. And that's why he has fans. And why his fans stick with him. He cares about his fans. Kyle couldn't care less.

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    OK_Milkwench said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 5:46 PM

    LOL @ some of these comments. I'm neither a big Jr. fan nor a Jr. hater, but I happen to agree 100% with JGWJETS post. He has not figured out the COT, has had very costly and avoidable mistakes on pit road and just hasn't been up to par on the track. ALL drivers have bad racing seasons but it almost seems like he doesn't care to be there anymore. I hope thats not the case because I just so happen to love the rivalry between JR. Nation and every other driver's fan, but it would be nice to see at least a glimpse of Jr. actually caring if he does well at the track or not.

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    Nascarfan99 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 6:14 PM

    Jr. just needs to do what he is paid to do, drive, which he has done very poorly this year, there are Stewart, Johnson, Martin, Kyle, Gordon and others who are very sucessful in the COT, driving the same car as Jr is, same conditions, so quit bellyaching and drive the thing, you are suppossed to be a professional, not a complainer, as the lame excuse of it being the COT's fault, just dont wash, as it was your crew chiefs fault, it was Theresa's fault, be a man, fess up, take the blame & drive the thing.

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    dale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 6:15 PM

    junioe definatly care to be at the track hes said so himself multiple time said so yesterday too

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    dslund said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 6:46 PM

    Well this Dale Jr. fan is a strong and loyal fan and stands behind him whatever happens ..Never will we see Jr. fail he is a winner and am very proud to call myself a fan of his ..things will look up and then we will see things written here that will turn everyone heads ..Til then everyone enjoy racing I know I am ...win or lose Jr. is the man ..

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 7:26 PM

    Art maybe you are too old to write articles. You are past your prime for sure.

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    OldschoolNASCAR said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 7:30 PM

    "Frankly, I’d rather take my chances driving beside someone who’s text messaging with one hand and doing tequila shots with the other." Comments like this Art show where your article belongs....and after putting it there push down on the lever on the left!

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    Werner said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 7:38 PM

    anyone think it'a an attitude problem?...
    just asking....

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    pj88 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 7:44 PM

    Art,go to Chicago and tell all the cub fans what you just told us. I think you are stupid and Jr Nation is here to stay whether Jr wins a championship or not.You all are the ones who expect him to be like his Dad and now you are trying to tell us how to feel.Listen good old fool,Jr Nation will never lose hope and will never lose the love and devotion that we have for Dale Jr. That's the way it is.

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    groveroak said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 7:53 PM

    I have been a Dale Jr fan since 1996 and will be a Dale Jr fan at least till 2036, every Driver has gone through bad times, sometimes 3,4,5 years he will get his stuff together and be back soon just waite and see, GO JR #88

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    tx20fan said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 7:59 PM

    Just read a letter in Scene Daily where the guy accused Hendricks of giving the best equipment to the other 3 drivers. Couldn't see why Martin can step up and win, but not Jr. HAS to be equipment. First DEI and Teresa, then Tony Jr. and now Hendricks can't even make the man look good. The nation should run out of Kool Aid one of these years. The difference between Jr. and some other older drivers is that they are still winning. I don't think Kyle is really worrying about Jrs. millions. I'm sure he's got a few of his own to build on now and will continue to make more as Jr. continues his slide downward.

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    old1950man said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 8:32 PM

    #11,Well Said!4EVER3GODALEJR.!!!

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    dale-jr-is-the-greatest-driver-alive said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 9:00 PM

    tx20fan you talking about me cause i did say that i thought they gave junior all his new cars to mark but now i believe its juniors fault cause dale jr said he like how those lder cars felt and that why he go them

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    lhsjrf said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 10:01 PM

    Jr's fans will be just fine, it is nascar you should worry about. I know many that are not watching much now because Jr. is no running good. We the fans will just go out and enjoy the fresh air. But nascar will be losing viewers and money. So worry about them and the jobs of some at nascar, because I like the fresh air and if Jr. runs good then I have to stay in to watch. There are thousands of JR. fans more than nascar or race fans. That is just the way it is.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 10:11 PM

    Art, are you serious? My God, you act like Dale, Jr. has some dreaded disease and the funeral will be next week! Get back in the real world dude! You only have to look at Dale's stats from last year to see how good he is! Yes, I said LAST YEAR'S STATS! He has a bad year and you are ready to put him in the old folks home! I am glad you are not an employee of mine with that pessimist attitude of your's! Did you actually say, "it's been a great ride?" Dale Earnhardt, Jr.'s ride is far far from being over! And please don't worry about Dale, Jr. fans! I am a true die hard fan and I haven't lost a minute of sleep worrying about Dale, JR. I have a lot of faith in him. If he could drive the COT last year and come out with those good stats, I can definitely see him coming back and soon! I think your platter is full and you need to start worrying about yourself! It's almost funny that this is the way you see Dale Earnhardt, Jr. Buckle up and hang on tight!!!! The ride is about to continue. Wouldn't want you to fall off! GO JR GO!

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    jbbigrod said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 10:21 PM

    WOW, a GREAT article Art. Finally someone isn't afraid to tell the truth about Junior. I don't hate Junior either, but never thought much of his driving. Though I do LIKE him much better as a person than his dad. And a cleaner racer also, but doesn't have the skill of many out there today, regardless of their age. We can see that by his performance the past three or four years.

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    lhsjrf said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 10:39 PM

    All you that put jr. down as a driver need to go to nascar.com blog of frevr3fan where he shows the stats to prove Jr. is a good driver. Of the 21 drivers in the all star only 8 of them have know the feelings of winning one of the prestigious nascar races. Jr. was right in the middle of the 8. If Jr. needs to get off of the track then so should most other drives. I guess we should only run about 10 cars each week.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM

    Tell it like it is LHSJRF! Most people have no idea!

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    bthompson133 said:
    Aug 14, 2009 at 11:42 PM

    and those people are jr fans.lol

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    Hateda88 said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 12:59 AM

    Funny how you all skipped right over the delusional fans part LOL!!! I've been saying so all along.

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    Hateda88 said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 1:01 AM

    Stats are things from the past. Darrell Waltrip has great stats and so does Richard Petty but they ain't going to win anymore races either. That shows how good you WERE not ARE!!!

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    bayleigh8 said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 2:07 AM

    Dale Jr overrated?!?!?!
    You must be insane or just plain STUPID!
    Here's some stats for you haters.
    Shut up and get over it.
    He's one of the greats and always will be.


    INSIDE THE DATA

    18 Wins for Dale Earnhardt Jr. in his career, fifth from 2000 to present. Jimmie Johnson (43), Jeff Gordon (33), Tony Stewart (33), and Kurt Busch (19) rank higher.

    87 Number of top-fives for Dale Earnhardt Jr. in his career, fifth from 2000 to present. Jeff Gordon (139), Tony Stewart (130), Jimmie Johnson (110), and Matt Kenseth (91) rank higher.

    140 Number of top-10s for Dale Earnhardt Jr. in his career, sixth from 2000 to present. Jeff Gordon (207), Tony Stewart (204), Jimmie Johnson (170), Matt Kenseth (168), and Mark Martin (149) rank higher.

    6,473 Number of laps led for Dale Earnhardt Jr. in his career, fourth from 2000 to present. Jeff Gordon (10,198), Tony Stewart (9,282) and Jimmie Johnson (8,438) rank higher.

    oh &



    This guy has won 18 races, The Daytona 500, Bristol, Talladega (5 times), an All Star Race, 3 Shootouts, and 2 Gatorade Duels, and we are going to label him a disappointment? He runs hard every time out and gets around the largest tracks (Daytona and Talladega, the shortest (Bristol and Martinsville), and the meanest (Darlington) closer to the wall than anyone since Richard Petty has dared to go. He has hardly embarrassed himself driving alongside the 24 and the 48.

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    jrsbiggestfanbt said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 7:02 AM

    I really hate that my name is B Thompson after I have to read the stupid comments that B Thompsn133 writes!!!!!! I am a Dale Jr. fan and always will be!!!! I'm also a member of Jr. Nation and PROUD of it!!!!! Go #88 show these YAHOOs what you're made of!!! Go get us a win this Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 9:13 AM

    The only delusional person I have seen post is the one that has HATE by the name! Hate will soon eat you alive! BTW Richard Petty and Darrel Waltrip no longer race, so I would be surprised (real surprised) to see them win another race! DUH!!! Jr. is on the track every week so his stats remain as, "ARE" (i.e. these ARE Jr.'s stats, etc). OMG, I just realized who I am trying to explain this to and I just wasted my time, because that person doesn't have a clue! Oh well, that poster is just a child, and will learn later on if he/she actually watch races and know what is going on one day and can join the adults in the conversation. Calm down Haters, I know I am calm. Enjoy this while you can, because I am sure someone will shove it down your throat before long! Bank on it! Jr. is my driver and I know I have nothing to worry about! Get over how Jr.'s fans keep supporting him!

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 9:22 AM

    BAYLEIGH8, Thank you for posting those stats. I just wonder if some posters understand how to read that. lol There are so many driver's out there right now who would give anything to have the stats Dale, Jr. has. Many driver's have moved on and didn't have the record Jr. has as of right now! Thank you again! Darrel Waltrip told his brother Michael Waltrip who has only won 4 races in his entire career, that so many driver's would love to have those stats tucked under their belt! That was with only 4 wins! Thanks again for the stat's for those who doesn't realize this.

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    MotorsportsPhotography said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 9:24 AM

    Gwen, I think most of these people on here are delusional anyway. I have some nit wit on the Brian Vickers article talking about nothing but Kyle but he is a Jeff Gordon fan. This could be a good weekend for Dale. He had a good car yesterday.

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    dejei said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 10:22 AM

    Here is my opinion. The 88 team is the essentially the 25 team. A team that since the Tim Richmond years (late 80's) has 10 wins. Yes, only 10 in 21 years!!! So, the 88 is the R and D team at HMS and has been for years. Mr H is doing EVERYTHING he can do to get Mark his elusive Championship. Thus JR isn't getting the best stuff (Lance said they needed to get JR in new cars). JR should have been put in the 5 team when he went to HMS, but because he brought Tony Jr with him, Mr. H could not move Alan G so he put JR in the 25. I feel JR has struggled with the COT but has shown he can drive it by the NUMEROUS times he has saved himself from wrecking when the back end is hanging out (did it in Q run yesterday). Again this is just my opinion. I hope they get things turned around because JR deserves better.

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    gwen_susie388 said:
    Aug 15, 2009 at 10:50 AM

    I know MSP, the two most talked about drivers are KB and JR. Sometime you just have to laugh about it.

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    Hateda88 said:
    Aug 16, 2009 at 1:49 AM

    Hate is really a word more for Jr fans than him. I could take or leave him. But, it wouldn't be as good if I was dislikeda88 lol. Also, it's funny how some people come here and do realize that they are the delusional ones that are being talked about lol. Besides you just don't like me because I don't agree with every single word you say.

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    e_rock43 said:
    Aug 22, 2009 at 9:24 AM

    dale jr will not survive, his 5 yr term with hendrick motorsports. brad k will probably be in the 88 car in 2011, by the latest.

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    e_rock43 said:
    Aug 22, 2009 at 9:28 AM

    rick h will not keep you long if you do not have WINS, even if this drivers name is EARNHARDT . i see jr racing a limited number of races in 2011, for a small 1 car team. jr will always be the 4th wheel at hendricks! jr will always be the CABOOSE!!!!

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