Kyle Busch would consider Nationwide title his biggest achievement in NASCAR

By Jared Turner - SceneDaily Staff Writer
Thursday, November 12, 2009
Joe Gibbs Racing's Kyle Busch is leading the NASCAR Nationwide Series standings heading into Saturday's race at Phoenix International Raceway. (Mark Sluder / NASCAR Scene)

Joe Gibbs Racing's Kyle Busch is leading the NASCAR Nationwide Series standings heading into Saturday's race at Phoenix International Raceway.

Mark Sluder
NASCAR Scene

Kyle Busch admits that winning a NASCAR Nationwide Series title isn’t the same as winning a Sprint Cup Series crown, nor would it entirely atone for him missing this year’s Chase For The Sprint Cup.

But as the Las Vegas native closes in on his first NASCAR championship, he unhesitatingly asserts that a Nationwide title would shoot to the top of his list of motorsports accomplishments, which include 16 Cup wins.

“It would be the biggest one I have right now,” Busch says. “The only other championship that I can say I have is Legends cars back at my home track in Vegas. I missed too many races to win a Late-Model championship that year, and so [a Nationwide title] would be pretty big.”

Busch, who enters Saturday’s Able Body Labor 200 at Phoenix International Raceway 247 points ahead of second-place Carl Edwards and another 20 up on Brad Keselowski, can clinch the championship a week early by leaving Phoenix with a 195-point lead.

If Busch finishes at least seventh with no laps led, ninth with at least one lap led or 10th with the most laps led, he’ll seal the championship no matter how Edwards performs.

To clinch in the season finale at Homestead-Miami Speedway, Busch just needs an average finish of 30th over the last two races, a 32nd-place finish and a lap led in each event or a 33rd-place finish and the most laps led in each event.

Busch was docked 25 driver points Wednesday for a rules infraction by his No. 18 Joe Gibbs Racing team last weekend at Texas Motor Speedway, leaving him a little smaller cushion heading into the last two races, but it would still take a mini-miracle for him to lose the championship.

“We sat down before [the season opener at] Daytona, and our ultimate goal was to win a championship,” says crew chief Jason Ratcliff, who called the shots for Busch for most of his part-time schedule in 2008. “So you had to approach the whole season differently than what you did last year. Last year didn’t matter. Either we wanted to finish first or … second didn’t matter. This year, it does. I mean, we’ve got enough of ’em. So you approach it differently.

“All of these guys, they’ve just done a tremendous job. There have been some times, even for this race team, that you walk in Monday morning and wonder, ‘Man, who just shot your dog?’”

While Busch has enjoyed the kind of Nationwide campaign that most of his competitors would envy, he hasn’t enjoyed finishing second so often. As far as he’s concerned, his series-high eight victories have been somewhat tainted by the fact that he has finished second a whopping 11 times.

“I’ve wished that we would have been further ahead than where we are right now,” Busch says of the points standings. “I would have liked to have wrapped the championship up a few weeks earlier, but we are where we are. Given the 11 second-place finishes, it’s tough, and it’s frustrating when you get those, but you know it’s a good points day. You know after you recognize it on the plane ride home … it was a good day, but you’re still mad you didn’t get to take the trophy home.”

According to JGR team President J.D. Gibbs, the 24-year-old Busch has done a better job of finding the positives on days when he finishes well but doesn’t go to victory lane.

“I think what you learn by taking those is you learn how to win a championship,” Gibbs said. “On the Cup side, take the fifths, the 10ths, the 12ths and just take them and move on. I think he’s really done a good job of not being happy about seconds [in Nationwide] but being willing to take them for the bigger goal, if that makes sense.”

Busch hasn’t run a full slate in NASCAR’s No. 2 series since finishing second in his rookie season of 2004. He plans to enter a number of Nationwide races next year but probably not the entire schedule.

Busch believes his success has validated his decision to run all 35 races in 2009 after a 30-race campaign in 2008. And he also has no regrets about his partial schedule for Billy Ballew Racing in the Camping World Truck Series.

Busch has seven wins in 13 Truck starts and still has a shot at helping team owner Billy Ballew pick of the 2009 owners championship.

Such magical runs in the Nationwide and Truck series have served as somewhat of a consolation prize for Busch after missing the Chase in a season when he was expected to seriously contend for the Cup title.

“If you can win a Nationwide championship and the owners championship for Ballew and miss out on the Chase, I would feel like that’s a successful year,” he says. “People might question where my focus is – it’s supposed to be on the Cup side – but to be honest with you, we didn’t have the cars capable enough of getting ourselves into the Chase. That’s why we missed the Chase. It’s not due to a lack of focus or lack of effort by the team or me or anybody else involved. It’s just situationally, it didn’t work out.”

Ratcliff says that the up-and-down nature of Busch’s Cup season probably put a little extra pressure on the Nationwide team to help their driver run well.

“We hoped that we would put good enough cars on the race track that he could go out there and not be concerned with what’s happening over there [in Cup], good or bad,” he says. “Just be able to come over here and have a good time, win some races, shoot for this championship, and it would be kind of a different environment for him. And I think we’ve done that.”

Busch takes even more pride in his Nationwide season knowing that his main competition has come from fellow full-time Cup drivers. While Edwards is the only other full-time Cup driver running the whole Nationwide schedule, multiple Cup drivers and teams have entered most of the races.

So you might say that Busch subscribes to the theory that if you can’t beat them on Sundays, you might as well try to on Saturdays. And he has – often.

“It makes it better when you’ve got the Cup guys that come over to race with you on the Nationwide tour,” he says. “If it was just me racing against the rest of the [Nationwide] guys, then it would look kind of silly. … But we still have guys like Jeff Burton, Clint Bowyer - I can’t even name them all - Greg Biffle, Matt Kenseth, you know them.

“Since all those guys come over and race with us. That’s what makes it fun because you go out there and you can beat those guys, and you know they’re at Roush [Fenway Racing], [Richard Childress Racing}, who dominated this thing a few years ago, [and] are in good cars. You know that you’re not an idiot, and you know you can drive. At least it makes it a little easier when you look at things.”
 

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  1. 1
    mrclause said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 3:21 PM

    I'm sorry but, for a major multi-car sprint cup team and a star sprint cup driver to not see just a little tarnish to a nationwide title is messed up. They are both technology and dollars above the competition, it's not even close and to not see that they are little more than school yard bullies, just amazes me. It's a thinly disguised sprint cup team participating in the nationwide series. The drivers may say publicly that they enjoy the head to head competition with the cup drivers, but, I think the owners and sponsors might have a different take on seldom having a real chance to win. This would be a good place for nascar to choose parity over greed. Oh wait, this is nascar! Money is the only thing!

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    spdbmp said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 3:43 PM

    Hey Kyle - It WILL be your biggest accomplishment ya Doofus!

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    Rainier said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM

    Agreed Mr. Clause. I think his winning both cup road courses last year was more of an achievement.

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    austinh said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 3:47 PM

    CHEATER CHEATER CHEATER Have a nice day

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    ronzeus said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 4:11 PM

    what a joke. the drivers who drive full time in the sprint series should not be aloud to race in the nationwide series.
    nationwide races should be for the up and coming drivers and teams.
    it there isn't enought drivers to make a full race then some of the sprint drivers who are at the bottom of the money list should be aloud to race. of course we would have to make an exemption for cry baby kyle.

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    gdking said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 4:34 PM

    Is he going to be a cry baby and run off to his trailer if he doesn't win. He has done it several times in the past. I do not like or dislike him but he needs to grow up and show some maturity.

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    Short-Track said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 4:44 PM

    When he pulls his head out of his @$$ and acts like a grown man then that will be his greatest NASCAR accomplishment!!!

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    johnson023 said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 4:46 PM

    You all have to be Jr fans RIGHT???If LITTLE DALE was winning the championship in the Nationwide it would be okay RIGHT????Why #4 is he a cheater if he cheated .Because he is ahead in points.These comments sound like 1st and 2nd graders.If he was in the chase and leading in points on the Sprint you would be saying the same thing.By the way I know he is not in the chase,So don't come back with a comment saying he is not or don't know how to get in the chase.Thats just being ignorant.If you want to come back with a comment answer this (How many drivers have driven in the trucks for an owner and never took any of the winnings,Gave it all to the owner?)the answer NONE.Say what you want to say about Kyle Busch He can drive !!!

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    DickHURTZ said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 4:52 PM

    #8 Correct you are and to #5 it's allowed NOT aloud.

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    Short-Track said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 4:56 PM

    You can believe that garbage if u want to JOHNSON023 because nobody works for free!By the way,Little Dale as you put it already won 2 Busch Series Champs. back to back and hasn't run a full Busch/Nationwide season.He races now to please the sponsors for his company and Rick's so try to make a different point because that one just got TORCHED!!!

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    daviclar38 said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    Cup drivers should be allowed to drive in the Nation series, just not all the races for a full season. Perhaps when the Nation series is racing at another track then Cup during a certain weekend let the Nation guys play by themselves. This will give the Nation racers a chance to win the championship which they should.

    Martin Truex won the last true Nation series before it became ridiculous when Harvick then Edwards went back to win these minor league championships. I can't imagine why any of these Cup guys would think it would be cool to beat up on these lower funded teams as easily as they do and win their(Nation guys) championship!

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    #10 Kyle does race in the trucks for billy ballew for free! He did it last year also! He put billy on the map. Kyle loves to drive, it's not work for him. That's why he does it for free.

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 5:22 PM

    And as far as Jr winning his busch titles. Kyle is the same age now as Jr was when he won those titles! And we all know Jr had the toughest competition in Elliott Sadler to beat out for the champhionship LOL! We see how well both of those drivers are doing now. TORCHED!!!!

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    I thought his biggest achievement in Nascar was breaking the guitar.

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 5:32 PM

    #12 If he races for free in the trucks then why didn't he let Aric Almirola go by and win at Dega? Same team, and the kid could have used 1st place money.

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    bigj said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM

    get off Kyles back..he is one helluva driver even if you don't like him..he certainly will surpass Jr in the cup series also..congrats to Kyle when he clinches.

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    RonSchwalbe said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM

    Big deal - Busch doesn't take the money for dropping down TWO divisions, but he still prevents the regular Truck drivers/teams in that series from getting it, -- and the points. If the Pittsburgh Steelers beat Notre Dame, or a HIGH school football team (and they don't take the money) - - is that actually a worthy accomplishment ???
    I am constantly amazed at those who don't like it when a CUP driver wins so many CUP races and Championships against EQUAL competition, but ---they DO like it when a CUP driver wins so many MINOR series races against lower funded, less talented competition, and could win a championship in a division they have GRADUATED from long ago !!! The lack of logical thinking is incredible !

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    KBfaninGA said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 6:37 PM

    #15 - because, believe it or not, the reason you race is to WIN. Kyle did state in his VC interview that Billy should give the 1st place money to Aric since he (Kyle) doesn't get it. A true racer would never pull over to "let" anyone win.

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    johnson023 said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM

    #15 guess you didn't watch the interview after the race.Kyle stated he owed it all to Aric.And Billy can give Aric his share of the winnings!!!So true a a real racer wouldn't pull over and let another driver win.Also if you watched the interview with Aric He stated he was not in the position to win'If Jr pleases his sponsors so much how come he doesn't have BUDWEISER anymore.Hendricks had BUDWEISER for many years before they went with Jr, But Budweiser took it from Hendricks,because Hendricks couldn't forfill thier obligations,So Budweiser went with Jr.Then Budweiser went with Kasey Khane because Jr.couldn't forfill his obligations.Guess Budweiser knew what they were doing Kasey Khane is in the CHASE!!!Back to Kyle yeah he didn't make the chase but he is in the top 15 in points .Jr's not.

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    SS396Chevelle said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 7:09 PM

    #18 if that is so true then Kyle should have taken the money and given it over to Aric. Having cup drivers in the NW is a joke, but a bigger joke is having them in the trucks. If he is that great a driver then he should have made the chase. In 34 races he has a total of 12 top 10's with a team with loads of money and support.

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    bajafishin said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 7:21 PM

    He sure had to wait untill Truex was out of Nationwide to do it didnt he.

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    yojoromo said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 7:41 PM

    Hey RONZEUS, I don't know where you attended school, but where I come from, the word is ALLOWED to race and not ALOUD.

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    Old_school_fan said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 8:40 PM

    I have read all of these and I disagree with all who think nationwide and the truck series is just a training groud for cup drivers. All of the race vehicles have diffrent horsepower and setup and I am sure drives diffrently. I do think all the drivers should stay in their series and stop crossing over.I think the only reason NASCAR lets them cross over is the big name value that comes from cup drivers.

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    wmvjr1960 said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 9:13 PM

    His biggest highlight from a fan perspective will be when somebody like Jimmy Spencer clocks him in the jaw. I can't wait. It's a miracle it hasn't already happened. Whoever does it becomes Nascars most popular driver in an instant.

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    sober25 said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 9:37 PM

    WMVJR1960... you mean your biggest highlight as a fan... speak only for yourself. There are those of us (fans and drivers alike) that think... a)Kyle is very, very talented... b)in spite of what you think you see, he is a really good kid with numerous charities, etc. and c)when he gains a little more maturity he will win cup championships back to back. For all you bashers... you are worse than you think Kyle is in your attitudes. Y'all sound like a bunch of jealous grade school kids...

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 10:06 PM

    #25 couldn't agree more! Chevelle why do you keep hating!? You are just an old bitter man, and the true definition of a Hater. Kyle said on live television that Aric could have the first place prize money, but since Kyle races for free, it would be up to Mr.Ballew. Why didn't Kyle pull over and let Aric win? The same reason why Hornaday didn't pull over for Harvick! Weren't you one of the people who thought that was BS by Harvick? Yeah, switch your tune now because Kyle is involved. No driver should ever pull over for another driver.

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 10:14 PM

    Jimmy Johnson was asked in an interview why he didn't race in more nationwide races. He said it wouldn't help him out any. But he also said that he's much better at letting off the throttle going into the corners. You see, Nationwide and Trucks have restrictor plates, and you have to have Ballz to drive them because you don't hardly lift. That's why Jimmy only has 1 win in his Nationwide career. The Nationwide cars are faster than the cup cars in the corners. About 15 mph faster. That's why Carl and Kyle do so well in Nationwide, because they are true wheelmen! There is nothing to take from the cup series and apply to Nationwide or Trucks. You still have to get the cars setup good, and you have to be able to drive them. Not all current Cup guys would be good in Nationwide and Trucks, because they are so different...It takes serious talent to be able to run in 3 different series a week and run competitively in all 3. And Kyle also runs late-models during the week every once in a while.

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    Busch18Fan said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 10:21 PM

    #27, Johnson has raced in 19 NW races in the past 4 years. Do you know how many of those 19 he won? A big fat ZERO. He cant win in the NW series. 91 Starts and only 1 win. He cant even beat the kids.

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 10:50 PM

    Its a darn good thing that the other thinly veiled cup team in this series did not run Logano full time. Otherwise we would have seen Kyle's full blown self detonation when he could not beat him. The tantrums and blowups on the track would have been fascinating to watch when Logano passed him every week. Kyle would probably be fouth in points if Logano had raced him every week. I think the 20 car passing him the last time he did almost drove Kyle insane with rage. I dont care for Logano yet but he is clearly the best driver at JGR in the NW series. Im 100% sure that if Logano would have raced the whole season he would be six hundred points ahead of second now and K.B. would be a passing thought. And starting next year the JGR driver finishing ahead of the others in cup standings will be Logano. I hate to say it. I think Logano does'nt respect other drivers and needs to be taught a lesson, but he is so much better that Kyle you can see it coming. He should Enjoy the HIGHLIGHT of his CAREER . I'm sure its his last hurrah! But you never know, someday he might be voted most popular driver! And then he too can be a great tee shirt salesman! He really caught on to the "its the crew chiefs fault" concept.

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 10:54 PM

    #29 you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about....I think you are insane with rage!

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 10:54 PM

    Hey # 17, Ron you said it all! YOUR a genius and I finally heard it the way it is, and the way I think it is! So I did not get into those facets of Kyles great season in my previous comment

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 10:55 PM

    #28 that's what I was saying. Jimmy can't race the Nationwide car because he doesn't have the ballz to keep his foot in the gas when cornering. I was just making a point that the nationwide cars aren't as easy to drive as people make them out to be...

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 10:58 PM

    And just because a driver is good in Cup, doesn't mean that he would be good in Nationwide. Jimmy is a perfect example. Kyle has raced against Tony, Jimmy, Jeff, Matt K., Carl, Harvick, Dale jr..hehe, kasey kahne, greg biffle, ryan newman, etc...all in nationwide and has beaten every one of them consistently when they run that car...

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    Rainier said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 11:05 PM

    No matter how many times people on these blogs explain why Jimmie Johnson does not like to drive or does not do well in NW cars, you Kyle fans, meaning JRNATION_IDIOT and BUSCH18FAN, continue to throw it out there in some attempt to try and portray Kyle Busch as a better driver than a 3 time cup champion. I'll say it again. Johnson comes from a background of driving dirt trucks and using lots of horsepower to steer the car through the turns with the throttle. When a car is floored all the way around the track as in NW, you can't steer with the throttle as he likes to do. It has nothing to do with courage or being a "true wheelman". It has to do with what he is comfortable driving. The cup cars are the most difficult to drive because there is so much horsepower and so little downforce. They are slower in the corners because of less downforce. The difficulty controlling the car is why it is the premier series and so few people are able to do well. If anyone is a "true wheelman" JRNATION_IDIOT, it is someone who has been in the top five in points every year he has been at the cup level. So you continue to beat your chest and say how your guy has the bigger ballz, but the 48 has the skill to drive a cup car to 3 championships and hopefully 4 in a row. And BUSCH18FAN, you said he can't even beat the kids in NW? That is the most ridiculous criticism. He has been the best Cup driver for the past 3 years. Thats like turning down the supermodel because she had braces in high school. It makes no sense.

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 11:21 PM

    First of all, I have alot of respect for Jimmy Johnson and what he has done in cup. I was just giving an example to show that the nationwide cars aren't that easy to drive, and not everyone can drive them just because they do good in cup. Everyone moans about how the cup car sux, and I bet you're one of them, yet Jimmy is a wheelman because he can drive one type of car? Being a true wheelman is driving something, and doing it well, in something that your not comfortable with, and being able to drive anything with wheels. Not just the Cup car. I'm not trying to diss Jimmy, but I have to call it like I see it. Jimmy also has the best team and CC possibly in NASCAR history! Not that it means Jimmy isn't a great driver, because he is...In Cup!

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 11:23 PM

    The cup car is hard to drive, but alot of it is not being able to adjust on the car the way you want to. Teams are so restricted by NASCAR in their adjustments on the car, that it's hard to gain an edge. And again, it helps to have Chad Knaus as a CC...He is a friggin genius!

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    Rainier said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 11:32 PM

    For the record, I don't think the COT sux. Why would I? It plays right into Jimmie Johnson's strengths. And I do think Kyle is a great driver, in fact, he may be the only one out there right now who has the ability to go on a tear and end Johnson's reign, but I just feel the need to defend Johnson against such attacks.

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 11:40 PM

    I really wasn't trying to attack Jimmy honestly. I can respect you for defending your driver. I do the same thing. I really was just using him as an example...I know how good Jimmy is in Cup, and I have all the respect in the world for him and that 48 team. I didn't like that Jimmy was taken out like that last week, and I wasn't one of the people cheering for it. I want Johnson to win it again, because I wan't Kyle to be the won to dethrone him.

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 12, 2009 at 11:40 PM

    *one

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:00 AM

    Hey Jr nation idiot its spelled JIMMIE Johnson! And Ranier is 100% right on the money! If you truly knew anything about racing you would also know what makes Kyle so fun to watch! Because he drives like hell with those rear tires and the gas in the corners. When your car is really workig well your left rear gets you in the corners good in combo with the gas and from the apex on out your right rear is really hooked and your on the gas using it to turn the car. ( which is why they are turning sideways and making those great saves on exit) The right rear is not hooked up and is spinning when they give it gas to turn and go. Now Kyle himself told me that the place JIMMIE was beating him at Dover and most other places was that they were hooked up and real stable on that right rear (on all four tires really) and that throttle was'nt upsetting JIMMIE'S car in the corners. And that he has had problems all year in that when he can drive hard off the corner its spinning out loose getting in or wont turn in the center without letting off or setting the brake. And when Kyle's team fixed the entry to great he could not hook the right rear off exit. They could not figure out which problem created the other- ALL YEAR LONG! Straight from the horses mouth dude! Kyle himself! He also told me that if they put Denny's stuff in his car, he can't drive it. If they put his stuff in Denny's car, Denny could make it work. Make what you will of that. Weeks after I talked to Kyle, a crew chief change. Make what you will of that. But like I said ALL YEAR LONG-same problem. So idiot you gotta enhance your knowledge before you shoot that mouth off. Please! Ballz indeed!

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:06 AM

    And Jr. nation idiot yes he does wear ol jeans like you and I and can be quite personable. And no he is not a jerk to your average guy like me. Which is why I hate him when he throws his tantrums and acts like an idiot, no pun intended. You just dont get that sense about him in person!

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:09 AM

    I walked away feeling won over. Soon after he pulled one of his stunts on t.v. Its like marrying the most wonderful woman in the world and she turns out to be satans mistress

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:21 AM

    #40 Thanks for that lesson in racing in which I already knew. What does anything you had to say have to do with the Nationwide cars, or what does it have to do with guys who are good in Cup not being that good in Nationwide? Maybe you should learn to read and comprehend a post before you start shooting off at the mouth telling people how to spell. Atleast you knew what I meant with the mis-spelled name. I have no idea what your whole rant was about, as it had no relevance as to what I was talking about. Are you trying to tell me that the with the Cup cars, the drivers are in the gas longer, than in the nationwide cars? Please inform me on wtf your point is? I understand what you're saying, but I have no idea what relevance it has to my earlier post!

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    bonjg24 said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:27 AM

    I agree with all the good things said about Kyle.
    All the awful stuff said about him I have heard here before.
    I hope Kyle has the opportunity to do the triple
    thing this weekend at Phoenix.
    Wonder what is the real problem with #24...so
    disappointing last Sundary in Texas. How do
    you win the pole on Saturday and then on Sunday
    the car goes backward?????

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:43 AM

    How old are you? its like talking to my teenage daughters. Are you smoking some spleef and have CRS? Driving a cup car is the epitomy of racing. They are the hardest cars to drive by far! winning at the cup level means you are the best in the world bar none. Winning in nationwide and trucks is essentialy just like your local track. You have the guys with the most money or the best teams buying the championship. And dont try to tell me JGR does not premium up on the nationwide series and throw alot more money at it than other teams. They at JGR believe that winnig there is how you get other sponsors into the cup side to finance that. You hook em in with winning in nationwide, its their sponsor marketing philosphy. They try and buy those series championships. Just like they will with logano next year. Its funny how Ballew went toyota when KB went to JGR. Yeah Kyle can drive and win in those series and at the local short track too. He still cant win like that when every team and driver is trying like hell with equal equipment and money. like on sundays!

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:47 AM

    Every time I read your stuff I feel dumber than when I started. How do you do that? Next Ill be sending you money. Go away idiot!!!!

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    wmvjr1960 said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:56 AM

    Bottom line, you Kylie lovers are in the minority, he gets booed every week, just like he has been since he was in Legend cars. Not because anybody is jealous, he is not somebody to look up to. Yes he is a great driver, but he is missing the most important component. A good head. Fact= he got 13th. Ended up in the second dozen. The third dozen are also rans. Kyle won't win the Cup until he pulls his head out.

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 1:15 AM

    I don't think any Kyle fans care about who likes him or not. It's not a popularity contest.......................and #45...I never said the cup cars aren't the hardest to drive. Again maybe you should read what's in my post before commenting. You are ranting about nothing, and obviously you have no clue as to what Rainier and I were talking about. No wonder you feel dumb

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    JrNation_Idiots said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 1:20 AM

    Why is it that jr fans always talk about Kyle getting booed anyway? Like that's some sort of driving statistic lol! Kyle is someone to look up to. He does great things for people in racing and outside of racing, you just don't hear about them or don't bother noticing. When will jr win the cup #47? What does he have to do in order to win the cup? Since you're obviously an expert on what it takes. There are plenty of people who are haters just because they are jealous of kyle. Just you mentioning it proves that there is a little bit of envy. If people weren't jealous of kyle, you wouldn't have even said anything about it...lol

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    juniegirl said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 8:40 AM

    Yeah...blame EVERYTHING on Jr. fans. Go ahead, we don't care. There are lots of non-Jr fans that don't like Kyle. That's ok. He ran his mouth about Jr.'s slump and look what happened. He ran his mouth about Jr.'s crew chief change and look what happened. Having said that, congrats to him on his impending NW Championship. It is an honor and it does mean something to get one.

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    kylestewart said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 8:50 AM

    if you took all the cub drivers out of nationwide you'd have even more empty seats and sooner or later no sponsors. nationwide series needs the cub drivers to survive. instead of shooting off your mouths why don't you do something about it and go support the truck & nationwide series. i do.

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    88_20_42_Fan said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    How funny. He can beat Nationwide drivers week in and week out in far superior equiptment, driving for his cup team, and he still considers it an accomplishment.

    Please get the people like him OUT of the Nationwide Series, that goes for all cup drivers who run the full NW Schedule.

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    Short-Track said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 11:43 AM

    Hey MSP..I mean JRNATION_IDIOT,why are you now bringing stats into the picture? STATS are like bikinis on a woman..they show the good stuff without showing you the important parts!!Kyle may have all the stats in the world coming out of his big ears but they don't mean squat when it comes to being a grown man,good sport,role model,and putting seats in the seats!Until your boy(?)wins a Sprint Cup then that don't make him one of the greats and until he pulls his head out of his you know what then that don't make him a MAN!!! Pull for your BOY(?)all you want but leave my GUY out of it! Now go to the TOYUCKA MIDWAY and take your pics of the few fans in front of those JAPANESE DEATHTRAPS you call cars!!!! OUCH

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    Busch18Fan said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 11:48 AM

    #52, He can beat the 17 other CUP drivers like Edwards, Logano, Harvick, Ragan, Vickers, Biffle, Kenseth, Menard, Burton, Bowyer, Nemechek, Reutimann, Newman, Sorenson, Waltrip, and Stewart every week in the NW series too this year. So whats wrong with Busch racing in it. Maybe you just dont like Busch so you'll say anything to take away from his success there.

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    Busch18Fan said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    Its just too funny that you all complain about Kyle at the age of 24. He is just a kid but yet I have never heard of people complaining when Mark Martin was in his 30s and 40s winning 48 NW races in his 210 starts while driving in the Cup Series for 22 years. Kyle has only been around for 5 years and he should do it for around 15 more. You are so jealous of a kids talent it is pitiful.

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    Busch18Fan said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    #53, I wonder how grown up you were at 24! I take it you never stomped off mad at that age! If you say you didn't, your a born liar.

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    Rainier said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 12:28 PM

    BUSCH18FAN, just playing devil's advocate here, I think people are upset that he is winning the championship so easily, not that he simply enetered and won races like a Mark Martin. What he is doing in the NW series makes Jimmie Johnson's so called domination of cup pale in comparison. Additionally, people find it hard to swallow the idea that the domination of NW in superior equipment by a driver capable of winning 8 races in a cup season, proves his superiority to all other drivers in all levels of NASCAR, which is what it seems like is being claimed by some Kyle fans. He may be the best in a NW car, but he has yet to prove that at the cup level.

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    Pepper said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    I'd like to see Kyle run the entire truck series also. Hopefully winning THAT championship as well. That way when he wins a cup championship he will be the first to win all 3 championships. As of now if Greg Biffle were to win a cup championship HE would be first.

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    Pepper said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM

    Speaking of Championships its too bad that Jimmie Johnson has never won a SEASON long championship. He just wins those 10 race shootout ones. But what can you do? Thats all they have now a days.

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    Rainier said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 3:45 PM

    The 10 race shootout championships are arguably harder to win. You need more than just consistency, you need to win races and you need to be able to make up for misfortune in a short amount of time. Without a doubt winning 3 or 4 in a row of the shootout style championships is more difficult. You have to go 3 or 4 years finishing the season at your strongest. Why do punks feel the constant need to minimize the Champion of the Chase? Oh I know why, because it's Jimmie and not Kyle.

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    kylestewart said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 5:26 PM

    how come last year i didn't see people blasting on bowyer or edwards the year before. all it is is your hatred for kyle and that's it. me, i don't care what you think, esp people like ipoop who likes 3 losers.
    not to take anything away from jenny because he & chad have figured out how to win in the chase but would he have had the chance when he was behind so many points before the chase started? just look at the last 3 years. jeff, kyle and tony had insurmountable leads that were taken away at the chase. just sayin.

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    Rainier said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 7:14 PM

    KYLESTEWART, the main argument against what you're saying about the insurmountable lead of non-Johnson drivers in previous seasons is this: The chase format changes the way teams approach the season, especially the 48 team which tests and plans specifically for the final ten races. They are not running at 100% for the first 26 races. We don't know know what they would have done in a traditional format so it's difficult to base an argument on the points before race 27 starts. And you are right to a degree about the Kyle NW thing. There was some backlash and naysaying about Boyer and Edwards, but not to this degree. I think it is because of the hatred for him as well as the belief of many, even though they won't admit it, that he is too good to race at that level.

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    Busch18Fan said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 7:32 PM

    buddy baker is one of the best racers of all time and he is considered the most knowledgeable of all NASCAR people in the garage area. He still does testing every week for certain teams. He said that Kyle would be the most sought after driver in NASCAR if he decided to leave Gibbs. He said he is the most talented driver he ever saw drive a race car other than Dale Sr. he also said that he has plenty of Championships ahead of him at 24. He still has broke most records in NASCAR before the age of 25.

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 7:53 PM

    Yeah he said that but at the end of his talk about Kyle he aso said the guy has to grow up. Why do you guys always leave that part out. He also said immature young men like him would'nt have lasted long in his day!

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    b48orr said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 7:56 PM

    David pearson said Carl edwards was the best in this day and age and look how right he is about that! Its all about the best car on a given day. Anyone of 43 drivers can win with the best car. Even John Andretti has had the best car once or twice!

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    Short-Track said:
    Nov 13, 2009 at 8:24 PM

    I'm gonna tone it down a bit and say I think the whole backlash thing is because of Kyle's immaturity when he loses.Yeah he's a good driver,he's controversial,and he can be aggressive/exciting!However he can be a punk @zz brat with no regards to the fact that people(including kids)are watching and he can't be grateful in finishing 2nd,3rd,or so on.When he grows up and shows some respect then he'll get a little back.Oh and Kyle could never handle a season like the one his self proclaimed rival is having because he can't handle a season where he won half of the races from the year before and he cries about a crew chief change!

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    vermontcritter-1 said:
    Nov 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM

    Kyle may have not made the chase this year, but that doesn't make him any worse of a driver, it just shows that he needs to learn to be more patient that's all. If he had taken a second place finish at Daytona instead of getting himself turned around by Tony Stewart, he would have comfortably made the Chase instead of Brian Vickers. As far as Cup (not cub)drivers racing in Nationwide and in the Truck series, I say let them race. I have a feeling that Cup drivers not only help ratings, but give guys like Logano, Keselowski, and others who are blessed with a ton of talent, examples to compare themselves with.

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    doc1944 said:
    Nov 16, 2009 at 11:30 PM

    like always a bunch of bull. lets agree on one thing, the races are borring, borring and getting more borring.each week i watch less of all it and the mike jockeys try there very best to create some excitment for the fans, they have to be borred but they can't say that and give up that easy money there making. watched football sunday and i don't care much for watching a bunch of overpaid guys fall arround on the ground. at least they play hard the whole game. with the nascar rules the drivers can't really race like they used to. kyle is a little baby but he does his best to race the whole race. if it wasn't for the top drivers in nationwide they would go broke for sure. look at the fans who could now pick the seats they want. i've never seen so many empty seats at these races these days.trackside is getting so borring i quit watching it. these guys try there very best to get the fans to get excited about these borring races. may something change in the 2010,if not i think a lot of sponsors will wave bye to racing.

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    rwilliamhayes said:
    Nov 19, 2009 at 2:11 AM

    Kyle unless i'm mistaken you get paid the big bucks to win in SPRINT CUP.To be satisfied with a Nationwide Championship would be like the Yankees being satisfied with their AA Team winning it's leagues championship while the big club finishes in 5th place. Nationwide and CWT ARE MINOR LEAGUE and MINOR MINOR LEAGUE SERIES AND SHOULD BE REGARDED and TREATED as SUCH.

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    88_20_42_Fan said:
    Nov 19, 2009 at 10:55 AM

    Nice, some idiot is deleting my comments

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    sstarbraintree said:
    Dec 5, 2009 at 11:38 AM

    Hey #27 you should change your name to I am an idiot. Johnson has just won 4 consecutive sprint cup championships and you are complaining he cannot drive a nationwide car. you are a moron

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