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Dale Earnhardt Jr. must raise game to rival Kyle Busch

June 3 2009

Everyone wants to talk about a Kyle Busch-Dale Earnhardt Jr. rivalry.

Well, if there is a rivalry between the two drivers, it’s not a very good rivalry. At least not right now.

That’s because to have a good rivalry, the two rivals need to be running at or near the same level. And at this time, Busch and Earnhardt Jr. aren’t in the same league.

Maybe in two weeks, maybe in two months, it will be different. But right now, Busch is sixth in points and has three wins. Earnhardt Jr. is 18th in points and has no wins.

While they are nearly split on a race-by-race basis – Busch has done better than Earnhardt in just seven of the 13 races this year – Busch has been the one who has been winning races and leading laps. Busch has led 789 laps (18.6 percent of all laps run) to Earnhardt Jr.’s 90 laps led (2.1 percent) this year.

Until Earnhardt Jr. starts running near the front every week, don’t try to sell me that a little smack talk from Busch can make this a big rivalry. They need another finish like Richmond a year ago to give this thing some heat.

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  1. 1
    cmwel2000 said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    i agree. it has become obvious that these two dont like each other. it would be great to see them go at it for wins every week instead of wondering when kyle will lap him. it could be very soon and we could have some more bent sheet metal.

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    jessydoyle49 said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 11:34 AM

    To have a good RIVALRY, You need two drivers with the same SKILL level.__At this time, jr. is not up to the task.

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    e-Fan88 said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    You know as well as I do that if Dale Jr. and Kyle Busch were running #1 & #2 to finish a race, that Kyle wouldn't hesitate to "take out" Dale Jr as he has done before. That doesn't make Kyle a winner, that makes him a "CHEATER". Kyle has done this before and this is the root of the so called "Rivalry". Apparently by creating this "rivalry" he is attempting to "Psych-out" Dale Jr. and Jr. Nation as well. We as Jr. Nation do not Psych very easily, so go earn an honest living. Then we can truly call this a "rivalry".

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    KenL88 said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 2:39 PM

    Pretty desperate to write this article.Rivalry Dale won't lower himself to Kyle's level of rants and raves he needs to grow up. Dale did talk to him after the drivers meeting what he said no one knows. Wish he would have deck him now that would be news worthy

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    bosco said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 5:16 PM

    Jr. and Kyle, I do not care. What this sport needs is some good old fashion "Rivalry" The kind that made people watch on a Sunday afternoon the games between Dallas Cowboys and the Washington Redskins. Rivalry is great, it was there in the old days of NASCAR. Some of us old timers remember.

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    martins140 said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 5:56 PM

    Agree with posts #3 & #4

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    WormDirt said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 7:06 PM

    Have some dignity Junior Nation. PLEASE!!! I mean, nobody is interested in your challenge to see who can sell the most T-Shirts (although that one is getting pretty CLOSE from what I hear). Seriously, leave the racing to the big boys!!!!! Maybe, Eric Almorola Nation or David Gililland Nation would be a better fit for your little rivalry. Sheesh.....

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 7:35 PM

    For a rivalry you have to have 2 drivers of the same caliber. In this case the drivers are so far apart on the track that you cant even compare them. One driver has more talent than 3/4 of the field and is young and only cares about winning. The other driver has some talent but cant compete if he had to go one on one and is coasting on his contract. I wish we had the IROC series because we could settle it quick and painlessly. Kyle would win everyone of them.

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    benn324 said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 7:54 PM

    I just hope Kyle does not try to wreck Dale Jr. to cause physical harm . I don't mind bent up sheet metal just enough to take him out of the race but do no physical harm

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    KenL88 said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 8:11 PM

    #8 here you are again now you know what we all say to you so why don't you just stuff it. Jr.has a proven record you read all the other web postings spoken by the pro's so stop saying what we know is not true. Kyle could have 100 wins no one cares but you Toy man

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    brooksm said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 8:15 PM

    Is it true Pampers is going to co-sponsor the 18 car? Busch's little fits is all part of his marketing plan. The throwing of helments, running home, and avoiding the media...all part of the plan. If people are so worried about 88 t-shirts sales then maybe the 18 should sell tissues. Yeah, he has the wins and he takes his bows. But when he runs bad he simply runs...dignity..hah. Now who needs to raise their game. I don't know about raising but someone needs to do some growing.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 9:08 PM

    #10, Dales stats don't hold a prayer to Kyles. Dale has been in NASCAR for 12 years and Kyle has blown him away in 4 years. You need to keep dreaming if you think that Dale will ever be better than Kyle. Get use to it.

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    motorsportsphotography said:
    Jun 3, 2009 at 9:13 PM

    #10,Dale has the worst record I have ever seen. 18 wins for 10 years of Cup Racing. Dales stats don't hold a prayer to Kyles. Kyle has blown him away in 4 years. You need to keep dreaming if you think that Dale will ever be better than Kyle. Get use to it.

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    mom said:
    Jun 4, 2009 at 10:40 AM

    If Dale Jr wanted to be part of a rivalry, he would choose a real man...not a toddler that throws hissy fits in the body of a man. Jr flicks off Kyle's childish words like most people flick off gnats. Jr shows his class while Kyle shows his a**.

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    Buschfan09 said:
    Jun 4, 2009 at 12:51 PM

    Ok here we go again lets hold class for all the JR fans the idea behind the whole sport is to.... wait for it WIN. I know most JR fans have no clue as to what that means, it means you cross the finish line before all the other cars not after them like he did to get is last so called win. Ok now for the truth

    #3 you know darn good and well Sr (a true driver) never did or would have a problem "moving" someone to win a race so that idea let’s see is DUMB!

    #4 You mean raise his level he is so far off Busch’s level it is not even funny O wait yes it is

    #9 Please I think Bush knows the idea is to win not wreck God himself

    #11 If someone in the media would ask a half way decent question he might stick around and besides he is under no obligation to talk to the media.. O I believe the rule that the top 3 have to talk to the media is the Dale Sr rule correct.

    #14 toddler really best you can do well that is sad but expected from a typical JR fan.

    Bottom line Kyle drives so much like SR that all you can do is name call. Kyle will pass JR in wins this year and in number of Championships. 10 years driving no titles that is so sad...

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    blazer190596 said:
    Jun 4, 2009 at 4:37 PM

    Selling the most tee shirts is NOT the same as winning the most races!! K.B. will have 25 cup victories long before Jr.!! K.B. is 23 and JR is 32 plus!! Big, big difference!! These are facts not emotional B.S.

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    KBfaninGA said:
    Jun 4, 2009 at 5:11 PM

    #3 - has done before? Would you please list the race and what year that Kyle "took out" Jr? As far putting a "psych-out" on Jr fans, it seems to have worked LOL You all talk about him 24/7, he's obviously in your head.

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    still4da88 said:
    Jun 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM

    At least we want him there, You? You just can't help yourself...There is no one more obsessive over Dale Jr as a non-fan of his... It was Richmond, May, 2008. When Denny (his teammate) intentionally drew a caution (and fined for it) so Kyle could catch up to Jr. Kyle spun Jr with 2 laps to go.

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    still4da88 said:
    Jun 4, 2009 at 10:48 PM

    *Hamlin was penalized, not fine. Sorry.

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    Buschfan09 said:
    Jun 5, 2009 at 7:10 AM

    That was just as much JR getting into Kyle as Kyle into JR. It is called racing I know no one is supposed to touch the choosen one on the track but hey Kyle is a rebel that way.
    GO BUSCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    e_rock43 said:
    Jun 5, 2009 at 7:19 AM

    everybody listen, when kyle busch talks people listen, kyle has earned that respect, now it seems that when dale jr speaks, everyone laughs at him! really dale jr is the laughing stock of nascar! you all know teresa earnhardt sets back and laughs at him! its like jeff gordon said, if we knowed what we knowed now, dale jr would not even have a ride, especially with us, we would have worked with kyle busch one more yr. jeff gordon said that rick h really feels bad about hiring jr now! kyle busch is truly a heavyweight in nascar now!!

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    WormDirt said:
    Jun 5, 2009 at 11:21 AM

    Actually, to be more specific it was May 5th, 2008.....just after 10pm in the east under partly cloudy skies when KB caught up to Junior that night.....I was on my 9th beer and the winds were about 7 knots out of the south-southeast...... and I SWEAR....at the EXACT.... PRECISE moment of contact during the "incident" I WILL NEVER FORGET the ominous blood-red full moon that was just begining to rise on the horizon! Many were too distracted to see it as they threw their beer cans and cussed their cuss-words, but it was a BEAUTIFUL moon! In ancient times, the elder tribesman feared the blood-moon!!!! They believed it to signify a chain of events BEYOND THEIR CONTROL that had been set in motion to challenge their authority. It was a time of great HYSTERIA panic and unrest as the tribes would rally around their master. Until eventually their paranoia reached a fever-pitch and they collapsed under their very own weight and pride. Ashes to ashes, a once proud nation turned to dust..... And I can't help but wonder if they were right about that blood-moon. I JUST can't help but wonder..........

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    WormDirt said:
    Jun 5, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    Actually, to be more specific it was May 5th, 2008.… just after 10pm in the east under partly cloudy skies when KB caught up to Junior that night.....I was on my 9th beer and the winds were about 7 knots out of the south-southeast...... and I SWEAR....at the EXACT.... PRECISE moment of contact during the "incident" I WILL NEVER FORGET the ominous bright red full moon that was just beginning to rise on the horizon! Many were too distracted to see it as they threw their beer cans and cussed their cuss-words, but it was a BEAUTIFUL moon! In ancient times, the elder tribesman feared the red-moon!!!! They believed it to signify a chain of events BEYOND THEIR CONTROL that had been set in motion to challenge their authority. It was a time of great HYSTERIA panic and unrest as the tribes would rally around their master. Until eventually their paranoia reached a fever-pitch and they collapsed under their very own weight and pride. Ashes to ashes, a once proud nation turned to dust..... And I can't help but wonder if they were right about that red-moon. I JUST can't help but wonder..........

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    24shaun24 said:
    Jun 5, 2009 at 7:40 PM

    Oh my god! come on, i dont like kyle busch either but this sport needs someone like that to keep it heated and bring back real rivalries!

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    yubu8 said:
    Jun 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    lol the only people that laugh at junior are his haters the rest which is 90% of Nascar listen to him lol that's why everybody wants to talk to dale Earnhardt junior

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    CrazyClyde said:
    Jun 6, 2009 at 8:09 PM

    i think kyle wouldn't be saying a word if eeryone wasn't pushing for it. he couldn't care less about jr's thing

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    boudruxbone said:
    Jun 8, 2009 at 11:52 AM

    post#3 Was Dale Earnhart a cheater?

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    still4da88 said:
    Jun 8, 2009 at 8:49 PM

    #22 and, oh, of course #23.. ; -)I enjoyed it so much I read them both.

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    gthom56978 said:
    Jun 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM

    Hey, you are so right 14. I like that.lol

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    Imandy69 said:
    Jun 9, 2009 at 6:10 PM

    I wonder if any of you KB haters/JR lover and apparent relatives of, would actulluy die if KB wins the championship!I think you may. lol lol

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    Imandy69 said:
    Jun 9, 2009 at 6:13 PM

    OMG! AWESOME! KYLE GETS HIS OWN CHANNEL ON DIRECT TV THIS WEEK!

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    trtruckin said:
    Jun 9, 2009 at 8:07 PM

    Sorry Nation but your losing your control. Jr "is" the laughing stock of most the fans now. He's whined and complained enough about not having good teams or equiptment and how it's everything but his driving. He had good stuff and DEI. He's got Hendrick's equiptment now. Heck even an old guy like Martin comes to Hendrick and drives circles around the Golden Child. Time to face the truth. Jr doesn't want to be in racing at this level. He can't cut the mustard. I can't hardly wait until he wins another race and you all think he's been resurrected. Feel sorry for his new crew chief cause he's really in a no win situation with Jr.

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    cooper said:
    Jun 9, 2009 at 10:01 PM

    Jr. Keep your mouth shut, let your track performance speak. If it cant speak for you, re-think your options. Ownership aint all that bad.

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    dale4me13760 said:
    Jun 10, 2009 at 7:36 AM

    why would jr want to be in a rivalry with spoiled baby..you're labeled by the company you keep..the baby would take out anyone he could to win a race..and has..he's a nasty RIVAL!!!!

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    mr_diamond_e said:
    Jun 10, 2009 at 8:37 AM

    Your right it is no rivalry. It is a massacre. The problem is that the two drivers are on two different paths.

    Junior is trying to win fans and fame in his own name. He is getting CRUSHED under the Earnhardt Shadow. Dude is under way too much pressure and stress.

    Busch is trying to win Races, Championships and Cups. He is having the time of his life.

    Under these conditions JR has no shot in hell. That pressure is like a 100 lb weight tied to a chain on the back of his car.

    The Media, Fans and everyone else needs to lay off him, give him some peace. They hound JR like he is the 3 time Champ and treat JJ like he is running in the 19 spot.

    I bet if JR were allowed to race in obscurity he would perform like he did when he was Busch (now nationwide) Champ.

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    sandra-clark said:
    Jun 10, 2009 at 4:14 PM

    To #32 If Jr didn't want to be driving he wouldn't be!!! I imagine he could easily step into owner level by bring JR Motorsports to Cup if he truly wanted to. You must be one of the Jr. bashers that really don't have anything good to say. Take your happy b___t to another article and give negative thoughts somewhere else!!

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    Jun 12, 2009 at 8:44 AM

    don't you have anything else to talk about. Obviously Dale Jr. isn't going to be in contension this year. They have a lot of correcttions to make. You never know, I'm trying to stay optimistic but we don't have to talk about it all the time. Why don't you all consontrate on what some of the teams are doing right.

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Bob Pockrass began covering NASCAR in 1992, primarily covering short-track racing and events. He has been an associate editor at NASCAR Scene since 2003.

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